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re: Kyle Rittenhouse was released on bond, now he's nowhere to be found

Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:54 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 7:54 am to
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Left or right, I don’t know how people can defend this kid.


Because I don’t believe that society should allow rioters to try to injure and kill people they disagree with
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:43 am to
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You made fun of Tom Seaver being diagnosed with dementia on this very site.


Again I'll ask, who in the goddamn frick is Tom Seaver?

Do you have a link to this lie you love to post?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45921 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:45 am to
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Because it immediately became a partisan issue.


It's a partisan issue when you use your second amendment rights to defend yourself from multiple people trying to physically assault you and take your weapon, while you're attempting to retreat the entire time?

Interesting.

This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 10:46 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:52 am to
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who in the goddamn frick is Tom Seaver?

Do you watch sports?
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
Texas
Member since Jun 2019
2070 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 11:27 am to
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This kid has prison bitch written all over him


You sound like the kind of guy that lowers the volume and locks his doors when you pull up to a stoplight in a less than desirable neighborhood.
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2490 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 11:40 am to
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Because I don’t believe that society should allow rioters to try to injure and kill people they disagree with


Exactly.
Everybody casually mentioning “Oh he showed up at the riot” like that’s not the main issue.

Like it’s a normal gathering or congregation that’s supposed to take place and he was in the wrong place.

Bottom line is, no riot, no incident.

Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 11:41 am to
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who in the goddamn frick is Tom Seaver?


The dad in Growing Pains, the 80's sitcom.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 11:44 am to
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It's a partisan issue when you use your second amendment rights to defend yourself from multiple people trying to physically assault you and take your weapon, while you're attempting to retreat the entire time?



No, making it about that made it partisan.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 11:53 am to
Self defense shouldn't be a partisan issue, no matter the weapon used (bat, gun, knife, etc). It is interesting to see so many do an about face in regards to victim blaming.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45921 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 11:58 am to
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No, making it about that made it partisan.



So now facts are partisan?

Interesting.

This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 11:58 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:11 pm to
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Self defense shouldn't be a partisan issue


Sure, but we were talking about the defense of Rittenhouse, not the idea of self defense. I think there's a legitimate argument for self defense in the shooting of the guy with the skateboard. The first shooting is murkier from what I remember. I haven't really followed the case since the immediate aftermath. I'm not sure either of the murder charges are going to stick.

But beside those points, I can also not defend Rittenhouse's actions. It's not a 17-year old kid's job to take it upon himself to cosplay as a cop. But taking that position tends to earn the label of a liberal in support of those that chose to riot in Kenosha.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65399 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:13 pm to
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It's not a 17-year old kid's job to take it upon himself to cosplay as a cop.


Who should do it when those people who’s actual job is to defend private property choose to stand idly by?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48383 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:15 pm to
Dude shot a rapist and a child molester who were rioting. He did society a favor.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:17 pm to
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Dude shot a rapist and a child molester who were rioting


...and trying to kill him.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:18 pm to
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Sure, but we were talking about the defense of Rittenhouse, not the idea of self defense.


We are? I'm talking about the principle and laws regarding self defense.
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The first shooting is murkier from what I remember.



It is. I believe there is footage we have no seen from a person following behind Rosenbaum (sp?) when he was shot that will likely be pretty crucial here.

quote:

It's not a 17-year old kid's job to take it upon himself to cosplay as a cop.


How did he go about doing that? Do you have any evidence to show how he acted like a cop? Are all people who carry a gun "cosplaying as a cop", as you say?
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 12:21 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48383 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:19 pm to
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It's not a 17-year old kid's job to take it upon himself to cosplay as a cop


If these worthless mayors and governors won't let police do their jobs, then it is up to business owners and families to protect their businesses.

I don't have any sympathy for any of these looters or rioters who get shot while trying to destroy people's businesses and ruin their ability to make a living.

The only thing Kyle did wrong was not shoot more of them.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:29 pm to
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We are?


I was. The question I initially responded to was asking why people would defend Kyle Rittenhouse. I think you can defend his right to self defense while also criticizing him for choosing to put himself in the position he found himself him. Saying that doesn't absolve anyone else involved that night for their actions.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14249 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:30 pm to
I admire Kyle for having the balls to do the right thing and stand up for this country
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14249 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:31 pm to
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The Spleen


How does it feel to sit here and defend a rapist and a child molester? What the frick is wrong with y’all
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
25510 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:37 pm to
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I think you can defend his right to self defense while also criticizing him for choosing to put himself in the position he found himself him.


He chose to put himself in what position exactly? You seem to be under the impression that he was out there acting like a cop to provoke others to attack him. I'll ask again, why do you think that? Because he was carrying a weapon? If not that, then what?
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 12:43 pm
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