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re: Ky. clerk jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples

Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:27 pm to
When did religious liberty of individuals, private businesses, and churches turn into a theocracy? And where did I say Govt job? Did you not read " forced to go against religious beliefs 'under penalty of law' " from your quote?




Did you really read what you quoted?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:36 pm to
Just admit you screwed up your answer by what your quoted and saying "nope".

I asked that person a question on whether believing that was hateful. and then asked you after your nope what exactly you meant.
I guess according to you I have to figure out what I am talking about before you can decide whether my asking the question on if believing in religious liberty, limited fed Govt, and the constitution is hateful?

You say you are for those things, so why would it be so hard to say those beliefs are not hateful regardless of your incorrect assumption on what I understand or believe about them?

Do you just try and belittle people in discussions like that helps you win?
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:24 pm to
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Just admit you screwed up your answer by what your quoted and saying "nope".


What answer? I simply pointed out that you were wrong. I didn't answer your question.

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I guess according to you I have to figure out what I am talking about...


You are correct.

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You say you are for those things, so why would it be so hard to say those beliefs are not hateful regardless of your incorrect assumption on what I understand or believe about them?


I support "those things" when they are applicable. You apparently have no idea what any of "those things" are for, so it doesn't matter whether they are from a position of hatred, or ignorance. Either is just as bad as the other, and I hold the same opinion of you, regardless of your intentions.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:26 pm to
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Do you just try and belittle people in discussions like that helps you win?


Nobody wins in these discussions.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:32 pm to
Whatever you pointed out you did it incorrectly, and just asking you to explain what was meant starts you putting me down and showing that new tolerance.

You offer no proof or facts. You just thinking saying the words makes it true. We disagree, but you are the one unwilling to do anything but put people down who disagree with you.

Are you angry? You tell people you don't care about their beliefs or opinions, but you seem to need to come back and put them down and act superior.

Do you at least feel better afterwards?
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 9:34 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:40 pm to
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Whatever you pointed out you did it incorrectly, and just asking you to explain what was meant starts you putting me down and showing that new tolerance.


I used one word, and used it effectively. Deal with it.

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You offer no proof or facts. You just thinking saying the words makes it true. We disagree, but you are the one unwilling to do anything but put people down who disagree with you.


I have no need to do that. There's nothing to disagree about. I'm not going to teach you about basic rights, the role of government, and our Constitution. That's not my job, or my problem.

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Are you angry? You tell people you don't care about their beliefs or opinions, but you seem to need to come back and put them down and act superior.


Do I seem angry? I feel the opposite of angry.

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Do you at least feel better afterwards?


Better how? I'm entertained. Does that work?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:42 pm to
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I support "those things" when they are applicable. You apparently have no idea what any of "those things" are for...


Why don't you tell us what these things are then? how I am wrong and you are right? And when its 'applicable' to believe in religious liberty, limited fed Govt, and the constitution and when it is not 'applicable'?

I am open to actually hearing your beliefs and will listen. You seemed to think you know the true meaning, so it would be a learning experience for all of us you disagree with.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 9:49 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:45 pm to
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I used one word, and used it effectively


Nope
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 9:46 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:45 pm to
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Why don't you tell us what these things are then?


You already did that.

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how I am wrong and you are right?


You need to figure that out. You won't learn if I give you the answers.

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And when its 'applicable' to believe in religious liberty, limited fed Govt, and the constitution and when it is not 'applicable'?


Well, when it applies to the discussion, it's "applicable". When it doesn't apply, it's not "applicable".

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I am open to actually here your beliefs and listen. You seemed to think you know the true meaning, so it would be a learning experience for all of us you disagree with.


Nope.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:46 pm to
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I am open to actually here your beliefs


Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:47 pm to

That's what I figured. You are too easy.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:48 pm to
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That's what I figured. You are too easy.


I don't think you understand what's happening.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:50 pm to

I really don't think that you do. But keep on. It's fun.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:56 pm to
Is that supposed to be me or you?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 9:56 pm to
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Is that supposed to be me or you?


Guess.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5688 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:01 pm to

Both

You really avoid giving actual answers though don't you.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71381 posts
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:07 pm to
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Both


Nope.

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You really avoid giving actual answers though don't you.


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