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re: Kid is interested in web development. Anyone know anything about it?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:40 pm to dyslexiateechur
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:40 pm to dyslexiateechur
Push her towards chatGBT or Unreal Engine
Web development will be more fully automated sooner rather than later.
Now if she wants to go into maintenance or security, that is another topic.
Web development will be more fully automated sooner rather than later.
Now if she wants to go into maintenance or security, that is another topic.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 3:42 pm
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:42 pm to dyslexiateechur
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Can anyone point me in the direction of where she’d go to learn this as a career?
YouTube and google. Literally how I learned.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:43 pm to dyslexiateechur
I think it depends what aspect she is interested in. She can do computer science if she is interested in that aspect. Otherwise, marketing. Our company used a local marketing company for our website.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:43 pm to dyslexiateechur
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Yes, I’m seeing that from this thread. She’s going to finish up doing the free web dev courses she’s found and then she’s gonna do cloudguru since it’s cheap and see how she likes it.
Worst case she learns some new skills and goes a different direction so I think it's fair. Tell her to look at data analysts, systems analysts, or product analysts roles. Those are very generic terms for doing god knows what with different orgs, but paying attention to them can get her going the right direction with how to build systems, deal with data, and manage digital products if the pure coding doesn't work out.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:45 pm to dyslexiateechur
Check out Juni Learning. No experience with it myself, but it seems like a very neat program if you daughter is willing to put in the work.
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:11 pm to dyslexiateechur
It’s a shitty, over saturated field. Kid won’t make good money in that industry
When clients see stupid Wix type services for $49 then you charge them say $1500 - they freak the frick out and accuse you of ripping them off
It’s a horrible business to get in
When clients see stupid Wix type services for $49 then you charge them say $1500 - they freak the frick out and accuse you of ripping them off
It’s a horrible business to get in
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:19 pm to FLTech
They’re good to have (websites) but ppl these days use social media more. And everyone that needs a website already has one. Also with wix and other page builders it’s almost irrelevant to learn code. Nobody is going to trust a minor without an actual business to pay for these services either. The money in this stuff is gathering clients and charging them a monthly fee to basically do nothing and have passive income through that. I charge 300-500 for basic design then 40/month as “hosting/maint”. It’s not my primary function of my small business but I’ll take the money.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:34 pm to dyslexiateechur
Man there are some awful advice in this thread.
The best answer OP is just to start building. There's enough free information on YouTube to keep her busy for years.
Start with building interesting toy projects with the core primitives HTML, CSS and then base JavaScript.
Expand from there to solve business problems not chase technologies like the to yahoos telling her to learn about LLMs.
You (and her) will find out if it's correct path pretty quickly.
One more thing, the prognostication of AI will eat all web development is either flat out incorrect or many years down the road.
Have her learn along side AI tools to be more efficient. Smart people + smart tools will almost always out perform smart tools.
Personally, I'm learning languages in maybe half the time it would've taken me a year ago.
The best answer OP is just to start building. There's enough free information on YouTube to keep her busy for years.
Start with building interesting toy projects with the core primitives HTML, CSS and then base JavaScript.
Expand from there to solve business problems not chase technologies like the to yahoos telling her to learn about LLMs.
You (and her) will find out if it's correct path pretty quickly.
One more thing, the prognostication of AI will eat all web development is either flat out incorrect or many years down the road.
Have her learn along side AI tools to be more efficient. Smart people + smart tools will almost always out perform smart tools.
Personally, I'm learning languages in maybe half the time it would've taken me a year ago.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:38 pm to GI Jerm
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Don’t let them do it, AI will mostly kill off Web design and front end dev IMO. Instead have them look into ontology, vector DBs, NLP and language models, if motivated/disciplined they can learn all of these by themselves. Then an internship and you’re off to the races. If they really love front-end stuff, just good human factors UI/UX principals could help them use an AI tool to create and tailor user-facing solutions. Good luck to them!
They said the same thing about offshore developers 20 years ago. The reason it didn't work is the same reason AI won't work: there's so much more to professional development than writing the code. Offshore devs suck at that other stuff (i.e. about 90% of the job), and I think AI must be much worse at it.
I mean, what am I supposed to do as a manager? Type my ticket numbers into ChatGPT? Will ChatGPT pipe up at a meeting and say, "that sounds expensive and error-prone, here's a better idea?" A good developer does that all the time.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:40 pm to dyslexiateechur
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21 in college but regretting her major.
Oh Lord
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:40 pm to Seeing Grey
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Start with building interesting toy projects with the core primitives HTML, CSS and then base JavaScript.
That's good advice. Once she has that syntax down, decide where to go next. Honestly, it's not sexy, but once you've got HTML down (and a tiny bit of CSS and Javascript), PHP is probably as good a way as any to start learning some web programming survival skills.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:41 pm to Seeing Grey
If I were in OPs position I’d be steering my kiddo towards graphic design first. Learn everything about adobe or whatever product they want to get into. That’s where I’m the weakest and there’s tons more money in that vs web development, imo. It will also be more “fun” than coding or development.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:17 pm to Porpus
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That's good advice. Once she has that syntax down, decide where to go next. Honestly, it's not sexy, but once you've got HTML down (and a tiny bit of CSS and Javascript), PHP is probably as good a way as any to start learning some web programming survival skills.
Exactly, it's not sexy is precisely why everyone skips over it to struggle to learn react right away or whatever the hype framework is at the time.
I don't know much about PHP, personally, id replace it with Python, but that could be due to my ignorance on PHP.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:41 pm to GI Jerm
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All of my downvoters are afraid of AI lol. Your daughter will do great knowing the concepts behind databases and data models and using AI to “develop” what used to take weeks/months in hours.
And when AI gives you hallucinations and you have to figure out what's right and what's wrong, then what?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:44 pm to dyslexiateechur
ChatGPT gonna have his job before he gets it
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:45 pm to dyslexiateechur
Chatgpt can teach her most of the basics
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:46 pm to Porpus
Sounds like they’ve become a manager rather than slinging code at that point. And architecting is one thing, being a general software engineer also that won’t go anywhere. But if you lean on developing for your bread and butter, get used to using ai just like we got used to using libraries. There’s a reason for the tech layoffs, computers and reuse have begun to turn the curve of the career field. JMO
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:47 pm to momentoftruth87
Absolutley!
I am trying to get something going very similar but for Niche Home Improvement Service companies
Nowadays, I can spend $75.00/month on a web host that will house up to 100 websites. It's a great margin business.
I am trying to get something going very similar but for Niche Home Improvement Service companies
Nowadays, I can spend $75.00/month on a web host that will house up to 100 websites. It's a great margin business.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:47 pm to dyslexiateechur
For studying on her own, The Odin Project or FreeCodeCamp.
If she's close to college, a CS degree will give her the fundamentals, though she may not explicitly learn web development there.
If she's close to college, a CS degree will give her the fundamentals, though she may not explicitly learn web development there.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:48 pm to dyslexiateechur
quote:tell her to make a screen name here, we will help her out
This is Greek to me but was very helpful to her. Thank you.
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