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re: Just Saw EV CAR on a tow truck getting charged at a charging station
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:05 pm to Clames
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:05 pm to Clames
quote:Are you legitimately trying to tell me you don't want a gas pump in your garage that dispenses $1.50 gas overnight?
The obvious problem with this argument is that with ICE vehicles, a "full charge" is only minutes away and only takes minutes to complete. With an EV, you pretty much have to plug in at home, there's no drive a few blocks to a system that can charge you in 5 minutes on your way to work. You see, I don't have to give a shite about remembering to plug my vehicles in when I get home, there are two gas stations within an incredibly short drive of my house. I run my DTE down to 10 miles and it's a non-issue from my house.
I can't tell if you're completely ate up with EV hate or if you're just plain stupid.
Edit: It's pretty obvious that ICE vehicles have exactly ONE advantage, and that is refuel times. Hence the intense focus on that one aspect and complete disregard of all others, to include reduced cost per mile, reduced maintenance time and cost, convenience, etc etc.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 8:07 pm
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:05 pm to Korkstand
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Regardless it's not something to concern oneself with, or to choose an inferior vehicle in preparation for this rare event.
What inferior vehicle here? Mine have more range and capabilities than what you drive.
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Got any data here?
It called do your own homework, your parents may well be disappointed in you but I bet they at least taught you that much.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:05 pm to Clames
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See why you lack the honesty and intelligence to engage this topic.
You are the one arguing about how you solve a problem you now admit you have never had.
Seriously. If I gave you an EV with a 250 mile range do you believe you would be stranded on the side of the road out of electricty? Not asking would recharging be a bitch or inconvenience. Would you suddenly find yourself running out of fuel because of the limited range?
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:07 pm to Korkstand
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I can't tell if you're completely ate up with EV hate or if you're just plain stupid.
No hate, just know they have various limitations and not going to pretend otherwise like some braindead cocksucker like you.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:09 pm to Clames
quote:Probably so, I drive a 2010 Sierra.
What inferior vehicle here? Mine have more range and capabilities than what you drive.
quote:This is your homework, bud. You're the one claiming that sudden EV range loss is an issue worth considering. Back it up.
It called do your own homework
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:10 pm to Clames
quote:By my count it's still exactly 1 limitation. And the impact of that limitation will be roughly cut in half as they move to 800v.
No hate, just know they have various limitations and not going to pretend otherwise like some braindead cocksucker like you.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:12 pm to Clames
quote:And just to be clear, you're still gonna pass on that gas pump in your garage with $1.50 gas?
Clames
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:13 pm to fightin tigers
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You are the one arguing about how you solve a problem you now admit you have never had.
My house has rarely lost power in a storm and yet I still have generators and back-up power. I, like many, believe it's better to be prepared in life.
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If I gave you an EV with a 250 mile range do you believe you would be stranded on the side of the road out of electricty?
No, but then that EV would collect dust most days of the week as my trucks have far more than a 250 mile range and I actually have concrete and lumber to buy this week along with flooring and materials for various house projects for the forseeable future.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:16 pm to Clames
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No,
That is what I figured.
The fuel source isn't going to suddenly make running out of fuel a problem.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:21 pm to Clames
quote:I believe that too. That's why my end goal is EV + solar + battery at my home. I won't need the grid, natgas, or for fuel to keep being delivered to local stations when shtf. I'll have 100% of my energy needs.
My house has rarely lost power in a storm and yet I still have generators and back-up power. I, like many, believe it's better to be prepared in life.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:32 pm to Korkstand
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my end goal is EV + solar + battery at my home.
Get you some with US made modules and get you that extra 10% tax rebate while it’s still good.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:48 pm to Korkstand
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By my count it's still exactly 1 limitation.
You don't count very well then.
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And the impact of that limitation will be roughly cut in half as they move to 800v.
So 15 - 20 minutes on a 200+kW station vs 30+ minutes but still doesn't change the fact that 200+kW charging stations are few and far between in large swathes of the US. Nevermind the fact that such installations require MW of capacity to approach the capabilities of existing ICE infrastructure.
Obviously there are a hell of a lot more than "1" limitation...
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:51 pm to Korkstand
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That's why my end goal is EV + solar + battery at my home.
Yeah, and my goal is emergency preparedness and your planning is a big fail there.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:56 pm to Clames
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So 15 - 20 minutes on a 200+kW station vs 30+ minutes
If you are stopping to recharge away from home to the point that it has a real impact on your life, then you are doing it wrong. Adjust your behavior or don't get an EV if it doesn't fit your use case. Simple stuff here.
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Obviously there are a hell of a lot more than "1" limitation..
Describing the same limitation in multiple ways doesn't make it more than one. It's just another indication of your mental limitations.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:59 pm to Clames
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Yeah, and my goal is emergency preparedness and your planning is a big fail there.
What the frick are you talking about? Your plan requires fuel trucks to keep rolling and possibly natural gas to keep flowing. Mine only requires the sun to keep rising.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 9:17 pm to Clames
quote:That's an advantage EV imo.
The obvious problem with this argument is that with ICE vehicles, a "full charge" is only minutes away and only takes minutes to complete. With an EV, you pretty much have to plug in at home, there's no drive a few blocks to a system that can charge you i
quote:The vast majority of people work in the morning, and you charge overnight so I don't see the issue. It's less of my time to charge than get gas.
a system that can charge you in 5 minutes on your way to work
quote:You see, I don't have to give a shite about remembering to take 5 or so minutes to drive to a gas station to tank up when I can take a literal 5 seconds to plug in.
You see, I don't have to give a shite about remembering to plug my vehicles in when I get home, there are two gas stations within an incredibly short drive of my house
quote:I can do the same with my EV but the great thing is, I never need to because it's too easy to not do that.
I run my DTE down to 10 miles and it's a non-issue from my house
quote:What convenience and range are you losing in the hypothetical you replied to?
People that prefer the convenience and range of an ICE vehicle
Posted on 10/15/23 at 9:21 pm to Korkstand
quote:It's hilarious that he said he'd turn down cheaper gas and less of his actual time spent getting that gas.
And just to be clear, you're still gonna pass on that gas pump in your garage with $1.50 gas?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 9:42 pm to shel311
Clames says a lot of hilarious shite. In this thread for me it's a tossup between that one where he passed on cheap, low-effort fuel ups at home in favor of paying twice as much for the inconvenience of going to a gas station, vs. now he thinks he is actually prepared for an emergency. When you are supposed to be able to sustain yourself with as few outside dependencies as possible, here is a short list of the systems and people Clames will depend on for energy:
1. Oil companies to keep pumping
2. Refineries to keep operating
3. Sufficient transportation infrastructure to move fuel
4. Banks to keep operating for access to funds to purchase fuel
5. The internet to continue functioning for access to funds and payment processing
6. And enough people to have their shite together enough to keep showing up for work without restricting supplies so much that prices go nuts
Somehow Clames thinks all that is more likely than the sun rising tomorrow.
1. Oil companies to keep pumping
2. Refineries to keep operating
3. Sufficient transportation infrastructure to move fuel
4. Banks to keep operating for access to funds to purchase fuel
5. The internet to continue functioning for access to funds and payment processing
6. And enough people to have their shite together enough to keep showing up for work without restricting supplies so much that prices go nuts
Somehow Clames thinks all that is more likely than the sun rising tomorrow.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:45 pm to shel311
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If you don't run out of gas ever, why would you worry about running out of battery?
Because EVs don’t have the range gas cars do and there is way less charging stations than gas stations.
There isn’t a charging station within 80 miles of here
Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:55 pm to deltaland
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Because EVs don’t have the range gas cars do and there is way less charging stations than gas stations.
There isn’t a charging station within 80 miles of here
You mean besides every single grid-connected structure?
It's not like having to fill up with gas every damned week. A typical EV driver uses a charging station a handful of times a year. Some don't use them at all. If you are using charge stations more than twice a month you are doing it wrong or you chose the wrong vehicle for your usage.
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