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re: Just bought this NFT

Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by Dawgtini
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:55 pm to
bored ape yacht club NFTs sold for .08 ether (~$190) April 2021 and now sell for 50 ether (~$210,000)

holy frick
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:55 pm to
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Now hundreds if not thousands also own it.


Not how it works.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:56 pm to
The floor is 100 eth currently so about 270k.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:58 pm to
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A digital copy is the EXACT same as the original.



True, but in the OP's case, the blockchain says that he owns it and no one else.

quote:

110101000110
is the exact same as
110101000110


There's an additional binary message in the blockchain that says he owns the NFT.

Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 2:59 pm to
if this has been covered, then I apologize.

I am completely lost on what the point of cryptocurrency is, and how much different it really is than our current currency.

Now I am hearing all about this NFT term. After browsing through this thread, I am left to wonder, "what the F does all this mean?" What exactly is the benefit of an NFT, and does it pay later in the long run? Is it an investment?

What is the big deal about a Blockchain?

I try to be up on current trends and new technology, but at the age of 38, I am completely lost.

Will the American Dollar eventually be obsolete? If cryptocurrency and NFT's are the future, then why does it take paper money to obtain it?

Is it worth buying stock in NFTs or Cryptocurrency, and if so, which is the way to go considering there are way too many cryptocurrencies available?

Now I need a drink.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:00 pm to
Are the NFTs usually offered in multiple crypto coins ie bitcoin, ethereum, sol, etc. or are they just offered in one denomination?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:08 pm to
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Are the NFTs usually offered in multiple crypto coins ie bitcoin, ethereum, sol, etc. or are they just offered in one denomination?




NFTs exist on separate blockchains (not bitcoin though).

There are Ethereum NFTs, Solana NFTs, Cardano NFTs, etc.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:10 pm to
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I am completely lost on what the point of cryptocurrency is, and how much different it really is than our current currency.


Check out the crypto and NFT threads on the Money Board.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:17 pm to
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There are Ethereum NFTs, Solana NFTs, Cardano NFTs, etc.


And so for your NFT to maintain value, you are also dependent on the coin on which it is based retaining value/ relevance? If folks just moved on from Sol or Ethereum, NFTs based on those chains would also run the risk of becoming irrelevant or having their potential buyer base shrink considerably?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:21 pm to
Yes. That's the reason I talked about earlier using nfts to increase my Solana stack. It's just a vehicle right now
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:24 pm to
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But what makes that data worth anything?


The illusion of exclusivity. Being able to say "I have this and you don't". The same thing that makes an identical table in a VIP section worth more than the one in general admission. The feeling of self importance people derive from it is what gives it value.

It's actually kind of brilliant and a gives a glimpse of what's to come with virtual "goods". You'll own nothing but you will feel happy.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:25 pm to
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For instance, this is a degenerate ape academy nft. The 'floor price' of these, meaning the cheapest you can buy one right now, is 65 Solana. Solana is over $100 so this ape costs around 7k USD. This is the cheapest and shittiest you can get right now


The frick?

I think I am just going to invest in lumber.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42175 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:27 pm to
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And so for your NFT to maintain value, you are also dependent on the coin on which it is based retaining value/ relevance?


Yep.

Like Jones said, I just use them to boost capital. I don't hold many of them long term.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:27 pm to
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think I am just going to invest in lumber.





Hah, you wood.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42175 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:31 pm to
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Like what utility? Serious question


Some NFTs are items for crypto video games. So for example, if Doom was a crypto game, then the BFG 9000 could be an NFT that I could sell to other people. That's just one example.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:41 pm to
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As I understand it, and maybe I’m wrong, they don’t even own the artwork. They just own a url or link to the url, or something like that.



To expound upon this further:

Storage on a blockchain is very expensive as compared to storing in a centralized database somewhere. On Etherum, a single smart contract can only be 24KB, so your images have to be small as well. To get around this limitation, most projects store the images off-chain, like in IPFS, and store the URL to the image inside of the immutable contract and call it a day. The risk on this is if IPFS goes under, or somehow deletes the data, your image is gone. In addition, the person/company that uploads the images to IPFS could potentially remove your image from storage (this would be a rugpull).

The next burgeoning wave of NFTs are stored on-chain, meaning you own the image as well. Projects are getting very creative on how to get around the storage limitation.

Some projects that are doing 100% on-chain generative NFTs:

- Anonymice
- EtherOrcs (Actually a 100% on-chain game)
- Furballs (also a 100% on-chain game)

Anonymice actually draws the image every time you view it on a read function, and since read functions do not count as a transaction, there is no gas associated with it.

EtherOrcs saved images in storage contracts, and their NFT contract grabs the image info from those storage contracts and pieces the parts together to create a layered SVG image, also on a read function.

I'm still learning how Furballs is doing it. I'm learning to develop in the space and the project I've been contributing to is working to mimick some of these projects to do our own.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:44 pm to
NFTs are a separate standard from cryptocurrencies (most of which are ERC-20 standard).

There are two primary standards for NFTs right now, ERC-721 and ERC-1155.


The NFT itself is on a specific blockchain. So yes, if that blockchain becomes irrelevant, odds are your NFT does as well.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:45 pm to
Plenty of people that question this stuff probably go home and play call of duty and halo not realizing what's coming to video games

Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 3:47 pm to
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Plenty of people that question this stuff probably go home and play call of duty and halo not realizing what's coming to video games



Yes. I'm concerned, though, that the big companies going all in on NFTs as part of video games are just going to make gamers hate NFTs even more. They are also a great way to make games even more P2W and cash-grabby, if a company wants to use them that way.
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