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June 27, 1863 - Joseph Hooker is relieved from command of the Army of the Potomac

Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:29 pm
Mere days before the titanic clash between the Army of the Potomac and the Army of Northern Virginia at Gettysburg, Abraham Lincoln pulls the figurative trigger and relieves Major General Joseph "Fighting Joe" Hooker from command of the Union army. The decision had been a long time coming since Hooker's defeat at the hands of Robert E. Lee at the Battle of Chancellorsville (May 1-5, 1863). As the aforementioned Lee commenced his invasion of the North in June, Hooker cautiously followed the Grey Fox and his army north across the Potomac River and into Maryland.

Things came to a head over the question of reinforcements. Hooker desired the 10,000 men currently garrisoned at Harpers Ferry to leave that place and join his army as he now believed Lee to outnumber him. This request was denied by General-in-Chief Henry W. Halleck. In response to this denial, Hooker submitted his resignation, incorrectly assuming that the administration wouldn't call his bluff. Instead, however, Halleck (who was no fan of Hooker) forwarded the request to Lincoln who promptly accepted it.

In the early morning hours of June 28, 1863, a courier arrived at the camp of Major General George G. Meade - commanding officer of the Fifth Army Corps of the Army of the Potomac - informing him that Lincoln had promoted him to succeed Hooker in command.

All of this went down....160 years ago today.
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:31 pm to
Guess you could say he got…hooked

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Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:34 pm to
His camp followers (prostitutes) became known as Hooker's Girls, later shortened to hookers.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:08 pm to
Crazy how Hooker thought he was vastly outnumbered at times
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:11 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Red12_Black4
Little Rock, AR
Member since Oct 2017
243 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:35 pm to
Actually just finished Gods and Generals by Jeff Shaara last night. Now a couple chapters into Killer Angels.

I'm sure it's been debated countless times, but should Lee have ever left Virginia? I understand his thought process, but tend to agree with Longstreet that you don't go on the offensive against the bigger more well supplied force. Then, does the failure (or miscommunication) of JEB Stuart cost Lee Gettysburg?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43772 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:42 pm to
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I'm sure it's been debated countless times, but should Lee have ever left Virginia? I understand his thought process, but tend to agree with Longstreet that you don't go on the offensive against the bigger more well supplied force.


If they were set on it, they should have listened to Stonewall Jackson at the start and gone scorched earth early and made their asses quit.

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Then, does the failure (or miscommunication) of JEB Stuart cost Lee Gettysburg?
Yes, that and his lack of specific commands and not always forcing his commanders to do what he wanted. Instead of writing "if you think you can take it" he should have just instructed them to do so.
Posted by Red12_Black4
Little Rock, AR
Member since Oct 2017
243 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:51 pm to
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gone scorched earth early and made their asses quit.


Yeah after First Manassas it's crazy to think they could've made a serious push against DC and might've taken it.

Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71158 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:58 pm to
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Yeah after First Manassas it's crazy to think they could've made a serious push against DC and might've taken it.



Very doubtful. The Confederates were just as disorganized in victory as the Union were in defeat. Companies, regiments, and whole brigades were scattered across the battlefield with very little regards for command and control. Assuming the Southerners got their stuff together and organized themselves for a counterattack, the ground surrounding Washington is very defensible and the Confederates would have had just as much of a time attacking D.C. as the Union army had attacking the ground around Bull Run.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
12344 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 1:59 pm to
Also on this date in 1864 Sherman's troops are repulsed in a bloody defeat with a 4 pronged attack at Kennesaw Mountain GA. Pigeon Hill and Cheatham Hill saw the bloodiest action. At Cheatham Hill the survivors of Col. Dan McCook's brigade will burrow furiously at a dip in the hill and will remain in a bloody standoff with The Army of Tennessee for 7 days. Before dawn on July 2nd, the Confederate army silently abandons their positions on and around the mountain and fall back to their next defenses in Smyrna and The Chattahoochee River. The Federals now occupy The Kennesaw Heights and the City of Marietta.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71158 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:17 pm to
Sherman's last frontal assault of the Civil War.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
12344 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:20 pm to
And would never even mention the battle in his memoirs. Only at a postwar veteran's reunion would he make brief remarks about this strategic blunder.
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