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re: JBE Lied in Today's Briefing - New Cases in LDH Region 2 are Declining | Data Inside
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:06 am to ell_13
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:06 am to ell_13
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So we had a contingency ready to go if needed. That’s not relevant? We don’t add those beds to the overall capacity?
no they dont want to use those bed numbers because it doesnt fit their "WE WERE ON THE BRINK OF FULL CAPACITY" narrative.
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:07 am to lsupride87
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Ochsner Main is actually in jefferson parish
We use the Nola address for "media"reasons. Its in JP thoug
Sure but irrelevant
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:07 am to LNCHBOX
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Beds without vents aren't particularly useful at the time yall are discussing.
JBE had ordered 15,000 vents at one time
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:07 am to fightin tigers
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Exactly. Whether it was the right or wrong thing to do is debatable, but staying home will reduce spread.
It won’t reduce the spread. It will slow the spread theoretically.
And my point about the state shutdown doing nothing was aimed directly at New Orleans as that city was inoculated with it during Mardi Gras, and that the people going to the hospital largely didn’t listen to any social distancing orders anyway.
So in New Orleans case, shutting down the rest of the state did nothing to help them.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:08 am to tgrbaitn08
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West Jefferson and Baptist were never on the brink of capacity
Ochsner was placing all COVID cases at Main Campus and using Baptist as its "everything else" hospital.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:08 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Because based on all the data we have and the timing of the data, Nola’s spike and plateau was not a result of any stay at home order. We know how long symptoms last. How long people get hospitalized. How long it takes those to die. Based on that timing, the virus was already widespread in mid March when the closures began.
How are you coming to this conclusion though?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:08 am to Oilfieldbiology
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And my point about the state shutdown doing nothing was aimed directly at New Orleans as that city was inoculated with it during Mardi Gras, and that the people going to the hospital largely didn’t listen to any social distancing orders anyway.
So in New Orleans case, shutting down the rest of the state did nothing to help them.
I love that yall post this like it's facts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:10 am to ell_13
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Because based on all the data we have and the timing of the data, Nola’s spike and plateau was not a result of any stay at home order. We know how long symptoms last. How long people get hospitalized. How long it takes those to die. Based on that timing, the virus was already widespread in mid March when the closures began.
Just to so I have you crystal clear, your argument is nothing at all would be different in NOLA if no shutdowns happened?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:10 am to Antonio Moss
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Ochsner was placing all COVID cases at Main Campus and using Baptist as its "everything else" hospital.
You said all the hospitals in new orleans were on the brink of full capacity.
West Jeff, Baptist, Tulane, East Jeff and Kenner were never on the brink of full capacity.
I cant speak on University/LSU bc I dont know but I dont remember hearing anything about them being overwhelmed.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:11 am to tgrbaitn08
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Baptist, Tulane, East Jeff and Kenner were never on the brink of full capacity.
Baptist absolutely was on the brink of their available resources, but OK.
Again, bed numbers aren't the only relevant metric.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:13 am to LNCHBOX
They’d have even less cases along with the rest of us at this point. And JBE wouldn’t have so easily been able to lie. The shutdown prolonged this whole ordeal.
So no. Some things would be different.
So no. Some things would be different.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:14 am to ell_13
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They’d have even less cases along with the rest of us at this point. And JBE wouldn’t have so easily been able to lie. The shutdown prolonged this whole ordeal.
So no. Some things would be different.
No point in bothering with you anymore. Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:15 am to LNCHBOX
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Baptist absolutely was on the brink of their available resources, but OK.
You may be right butim just going off what my neighbor told me she is an ER nurse...she said they were busy for a week or 2 but never said they were overwhelmed.
then last week she told me they were cutting her hours.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:15 am to LNCHBOX
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Just to so I have you crystal clear, your argument is nothing at all would be different in NOLA if no shutdowns happened?
If they had shut down New Orleans but not shut down Baton Rouge, lake Charles, Monroe, Shreveport, Alexandria, or the north shore, no. Nothing different would have happened in NOLA
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:16 am to tgrbaitn08
My wife works for Ochsner. Drug trials/studies. She’s being forced to take off two days per pay period.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:16 am to tgrbaitn08
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You may be right butim just going off what my neighbor told me she is an ER nurse...she said they were busy for a week or 2 but never said they were overwhelmed.
It was more than that.
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then last week she told me they were cutting her hours.
Not getting started on this
, but yea the bean counters are ready to start making up for the lost revenue. Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:17 am to Oilfieldbiology
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So in New Orleans case, shutting down the rest of the state did nothing to help them.
On March 16th, the state shut down most nonessential businesses.
Between March 17-24th, Region 1 Hospitals saw an average increase in COVID hospitalizations of 32%
Between March 25-31st, Region 1 Hospitals saw an average increase of COVID hospitalizations of 17%
Between April 1st-8th, Region 1 Hospitals saw an average increase of COVID hospitalizations of 18%
Between April 8th-15th, Region 1 Hospitals saw an average increase of COVID hospitalizations of 2%.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:19 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Never knew you were such a bleeding heart spread the wealth liberal
Not getting started on this , but yea the bean counters are ready to start making up for the lost revenue.
We should be paying hourly employees to take shifts that arent needed?
I kid, but not really
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:22 am to Antonio Moss
quote:A plateau that would have taken place regardless and at which point the capacity was increased to handle the case load.
Between March 17-24th, Region 1 Hospitals saw an average increase in COVID hospitalizations of 32%
Between March 25-31st, Region 1 Hospitals saw an average increase of COVID hospitalizations of 17%
Between April 1st-8th, Region 1 Hospitals saw an average increase of COVID hospitalizations of 18%
Anyone that would have needed a bed or a vent would have gotten it.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:24 am to lsupride87
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We should be paying hourly employees to take shifts that arent needed?
This goes directly against all the bullshite you spew about everyone is still getting fully paid and raises are happening, etc.
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