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re: It's getting tough to defend police. Threatning to take kid at traffic stop
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:12 am to cleetus
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:12 am to cleetus
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For instance if there was a kidnapping and the vehicle they are in matches it or your description matches
Except there was no kidnapping in the area.
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Think of the children (and similar phrases citing the interests of children including what about the children) can be used to justify why something should, or should not, be done. When used as a plea for pity, this appeal to emotion can constitute a potential logical fallacy, while when used as an appeal for sympathy for weaker members of society
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:13 am to meauxjeaux2
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I did not know this was a primary offense. I thought it had to be a secondary offense meaning she had to get pulled over for something else for them to charge her with this.
This was the initial reason given for the stop (one of many coming later) which is reasonable to stop them.
Once it was established she was legal, they have no basis to detain them unless they suspect a crime is being committed.
They were both arrested for obstruction of justice. Unreal.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:13 am to KosmoCramer
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KosmoCramer
It's too bad that judges and prosecutors don't give a shite what the law says anymore.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:13 am to cleetus
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whether it's a 'right' or not doesn't come into play.
Welcome to the USA where your rights "don't come into play" when being detained by a police officer.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:15 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:14 am to cleetus
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whether it's a 'right' or not doesn't come into play. the people pulling this video crap are just trying to get hits and show up the cops instead of talking to them and being polite, show your id and then both parties have a nice day.
You are such an idiot.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:14 am to KosmoCramer
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This was the initial reason given for the stop (one of many coming later) which is reasonable to stop them.
No. No it is not.
Pretty sure it's a secondary offense.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:15 am to Breesus
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It's too bad that judges and prosecutors don't give a shite what the law says anymore.
Any self respecting judge will throw this out with the quickness.
Somes judges HATE cops for this very reason. The prosecutor will take the case though because of the blue line.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:17 am to meauxjeaux2
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No. No it is not.
Pretty sure it's a secondary offense.
You might be right. I was thinking expired tag.
I still think they can stop you if the primary holder of the vehicle is expired but you might be right.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:17 am to meauxjeaux2
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Sandusky police Assistant Chief Phil Frost said Officer Christopher Denny stopped Said's car because her Ohio license plate number showed she had an expired Ohio driver's license.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:17 am to cleetus
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whether it's a 'right' or not doesn't come into play. the people pulling this video crap are just trying to get hits and show up the cops instead of talking to them and being polite, show your id and then both parties have a nice day.
As soon as the woman's licence plate and id came back valid with no warrants they should have been free to go. Defending the police afterwards is insane.
You really don't understand constitutionally protected civil rights.
I didn't realize being polite to a douchebag police officer overstepping his bounds and illegally detaining you was a legal requirement
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:18 am to cleetus
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if you get pulled over, there is a reason.
The reason is frequently that they are fishing for an arrest, and it is a random stop. You sound naive.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:19 am to Pectus
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:19 am to Peazey
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Frost did note that the mention of Child Protective Services was not a threat but he did speak with officers about this.
"I don't look at (the mention of Children's Services) as a threat; I would rather it not be taken as a threat," Frost said. "Could that ultimately happen to someone being arrested, yes...we do not want to displace a child from their mom or parent. They were counseled on their use of that last evening," Frost said. "I don't like the way it was used personally and it was already addressed."
What a load of horse shite... it was absolutely used as a threat. The mother was fricking crying and kept saying "I don't want them to take my baby".
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:20 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:19 am to LSUGrrrl
•“I don't look at (the mention of Children's Services) as a threat; I would rather it not be taken as a threat,” Frost said. “Could that ultimately happen to someone being arrested, yes...we do not want to displace a child from their mom or parent.”
Officers were spoken with Thursday night about issue, however.
“They were counseled on their use of that last evening,” Frost said. “I don't like the way it was used personally and it was already addressed.”
•Oglesby took issue with the mention of social workers in particular.
"The utilization of Children's Services to further the interest of the drug task force...is a problem," the attorney said.
This came from the police chief
Officers were spoken with Thursday night about issue, however.
“They were counseled on their use of that last evening,” Frost said. “I don't like the way it was used personally and it was already addressed.”
•Oglesby took issue with the mention of social workers in particular.
"The utilization of Children's Services to further the interest of the drug task force...is a problem," the attorney said.
This came from the police chief
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:20 am to terd ferguson
damn,just beat me to it.
That is some fricked up shite.
That is some fricked up shite.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:21 am to cleetus
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if you get pulled over, there is a reason. Maybe you or the vehicle
Go work with the public defenders office, or a police scanner agency, or a civil rights protection agency.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:22 am to meauxjeaux2
This is everything wrong with police all wrapped up into one.
Overreach of power, intimidation tactics, and outright lying. If they would have used unreasonable force that would have been the grand slam.
I'm so pissed about this. I want to donate to this guy's legal fund.
Overreach of power, intimidation tactics, and outright lying. If they would have used unreasonable force that would have been the grand slam.
I'm so pissed about this. I want to donate to this guy's legal fund.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:22 am to meauxjeaux2
It wasn't used as a threat... BUT he counseled his officers on it. 
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:23 am to Breesus
Serious question.
Do police just ride around checking peoples license plates for no reason?
I mean,if i see a cop behind me in traffic,stopped at a redlight. Is he checking my plate? Is there a special camera they use that checks /scans every license plate going down the road?
Do police just ride around checking peoples license plates for no reason?
I mean,if i see a cop behind me in traffic,stopped at a redlight. Is he checking my plate? Is there a special camera they use that checks /scans every license plate going down the road?
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