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re: Israelis partying as a Palestinian building burns
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:10 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:10 pm to SCLibertarian
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The fact is, we treat Israel differently for two reasons: i) the disproportionate impact Jews have in the legal, media and financial sectors of this country; and ii) the millions of evangelicals who have swallowed whole the heresy of John Hagee's dispensationalist propaganda.
To add to this the west wants a foothold in the ME and has wanted one ever since the start of the Cold War. Israel is that foothold so our government and media will do whatever they can to make sure the people blindly support them.
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:12 pm to dawgfan24348
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Hey read it again I said only real friend
Look, everyone, Dawgfan doesn't know the meaning of the word ally.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:12 pm to IAmNERD
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Again..get fricked, because you're straight up lying
Dude are you fricking trolling or just dumb my post still says that same thing. If you want to actually have some argument or debate then let's have it but if you're just going to repeat the same thing over and over you can piss off
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:12 pm to IAmNERD
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Israel is not our only interest in the ME
You conflate "our" interests with our political class's interests. There are $3.5 billion reasons every year why American politicians love Israel. That money is shoestrung to defense contractors and weapons manufacturers. How many lifelong politicians, their family members, lobbyists, bureaucrats and ex-miliary work or consult for these companies in some form? The very Deep State that Trump Republicans love to hate is funded by the same people Republicans don't want you to criticize.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:13 pm to BeepNode
Palestinians are possibly the most full of shite people in the world. They have their own fricking country already.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:14 pm to IAmNERD
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Look, everyone, Dawgfan doesn't know the meaning of the word ally.
There is a difference in being an "ally" and an actual ally or friend. We only deem SA an ally for their oil and weapons deals.
But hey I can see this is all you got, trying to pull out a gotcha over a technicality
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:16 pm to IAmNERD
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Only responding to your original lies until you edited as you were called out by me and another poster.
I haven't lied once dude my post is the exact same as the quote you pulled
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Israel is not our only interest in the ME as you so deftly suggested in your original words..
I never said it was, you fricking suck at reading comprehension
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:18 pm to dawgfan24348
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Dude are you fricking trolling or just dumb my post still says that same thing. If you want to actually have some argument or debate
I quoted the wrong post so that is my bad...
But you go on to say in your next post that the Saudis are our allies as well.
So how can the media give a pass to Israel because they're our ONLY allies while the Saudis (and the Jordanians as another poster pointed out)?
So, is Israel our only true ally in the ME not?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:18 pm to BeepNode
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Israelis partying as a Palestinian building burns
Many replies in that twitter thread say it's a tree burning. Not a building.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:21 pm to dawgfan24348
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We only deem SA an ally for their oil and weapons deals.
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al·ly1
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noun
noun: ally; plural noun: allies
/'ali/
a state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose.
"debate continued among NATO allies"
a person or organization that cooperates with or helps another in a particular activity.
"he was forced to dismiss his closest political ally"
Yeah, I'd say we formally consider them an ally.
But what definition are you working on?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:21 pm to TheWalrus
I think it is strange that insulting Israel = insulting Jews.
If you insult France are you insulting French Americans and Cajuns?
If you insult France are you insulting French Americans and Cajuns?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:24 pm to BeepNode
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:24 pm to IAmNERD
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how can the media give a pass to Israel because they're our ONLY allies while the Saudis (and the Jordanians as another poster pointed out)?
The media ignores the shite SA does because they're our ally in the sense that we make deals with them but we will occasionally see them talk about actual problems with SA like the Khashoggi event
However Israel is the only country in the middle east that is an actual ally in the sense that they won't pull some shite like kill ab American reporter
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So, is Israel our only true ally in the ME not?
A true ally? Yes
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:27 pm to IAmNERD
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But what definition are you working on?
More like we're only allied with the Saudis because of oil and our history with Iran. (Which is why we are ignoring the genocide in Yemen) Kind of like the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing. While Israel exists pretty much for us and the west to make sure Russia doesn't take over the ME
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:34 pm to dawgfan24348
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(Which is why we are ignoring the genocide in Yemen)
What does Yemen do for the US that we should make it our business?
Just like we we put our shite in Afghanistan and they don't GAF about American values or principles and as soon as the last boot leaves the ground, Al Qaeda will immediately take over. Hell, they're already shooting mortars at American facilities because we didn't hit the amount of troops out by a certain deadline.
Israel won the war (the last one, anyways) that established the borders, but nobody wants to abide by that. Yet, they are the entire problem according to some of y'all.
Why are you concerned about Yemen?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:36 pm to SCLibertarian
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The fact is, we treat Israel differently for two reasons: i) the disproportionate impact Jews have in the legal, media and financial sectors of this country; and ii) the millions of evangelicals who have swallowed whole the heresy of John Hagee's dispensationalist propaganda.
And iii) the disproportionate representation of Jews amongst Nobel prize winners. On that front you have to hand it to the Jews. As a people they value education above all else. If only they knew math and science were tools of white supremacy!
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:39 pm to IAmNERD
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What does Yemen do for the US that we should make it our business?
I'm not saying we should do anything. But the media ignores it all the while we are doing weapons deals with the Saudis. Meanwhile you have warhawks in congress saying we have to stay to protect the people of Afghanistan.
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, they are the entire problem according to some of y'all.
Not the entire problem but you can't ignore the shite Israel has pulled.
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Why are you concerned about Yemen?
I'm just using them as example of the government and media being hypocritical
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:42 pm to dawgfan24348
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But the media ignores it all the while we are doing weapons deals with the Saudis.
We sell weapons to a myriad of countries. (96 if you go by wiki)
Why do you care if we sell weapons to Israel?
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government and media being hypocritical
We are on the same page here.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:55 pm to dawgfan24348
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Israel exists pretty much for us and the west to make sure Russia doesn't take over the ME
Also, I don't see the downside of not letting Russia take over the ME.
Should we just let them have it? Are you aware global oil markets are determined by the ME?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:58 pm to BeepNode
Israel should just go ahead and annex the West Bank and be done with this shite. I imagine that will happen in the next 10 years judging by the number of Muslim countries officially starting to recognize them and a Palestinian diaspora being more integrated into neighboring nations. Palestine will never exist unless Israel is erased off of the map and if that does happen Israel will use the Samson option and nuke their neighbors. I don’t like Israel particularly for a multitude of reasons but I prefer them over another hostile Muslim nation.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 11:00 pm
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