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re: Is the Spanish Civil War the best Civil War of all time?
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:20 am to Dominate308
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:20 am to Dominate308
China
Mao. Vs chang kai-shek
I would to see a "You are there" style documentary from the mountains with mao to the war with japan up to the capitalists getting to taiwan. 5 part mini series.
Mao. Vs chang kai-shek
I would to see a "You are there" style documentary from the mountains with mao to the war with japan up to the capitalists getting to taiwan. 5 part mini series.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 6:21 am
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:46 am to The Boat
Taiping Rebellion in China 1850-64
20 million motherfrickers killed!!!
top that bitches
20 million motherfrickers killed!!!
top that bitches
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:41 am to Kafka
The interesting thing about wars aren't the number of lives taken or the fighting itself. It's the politics and political outcomes that make wars so interesting.
I agree with what another poster said about the American Revolution being a civil war and being important.
The thirty years war, being all mostly a part of the HRE would be acceptable to be called a civil war.
The English and Russian civil wars also had outcomes that monumentally changed history.
I'd also add the Roman civil wars of the late republic that brought in the Roman Empire.
I agree with what another poster said about the American Revolution being a civil war and being important.
The thirty years war, being all mostly a part of the HRE would be acceptable to be called a civil war.
The English and Russian civil wars also had outcomes that monumentally changed history.
I'd also add the Roman civil wars of the late republic that brought in the Roman Empire.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:43 am to The Boat
Guns N Roses - Civil War is the best.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:44 am to rmnldr
quote:"Viewed purely as drama, the war is somewhat disappointing." -- film director D.W. Griffith on WWI
The interesting thing about wars aren't the number of lives taken or the fighting itself. It's the politics and political outcomes that make wars so interesting
Posted on 2/11/17 at 12:48 pm to Ed Osteen
I would argue the bear that fought beside the Polish army in WWII against the Germans. Yes, the Polish Army had a bear that showered with the troops, soluted, and carried ammunition.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 12:52 pm to Ed Osteen
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Which bear is best?
There are basically two schools of thought...
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:24 am to The Boat
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American pilots have always had a reputation as being something of adventurers. It is hard to find a single war or conflict that American flyers of fortune did not participate in. Volunteer US pilots flew for Pancho Villa. Enough volunteer Americans of all backgrounds flew for the French Air Force in the early stages of World War 1 to form their own squadron, the Lafayette Escadrille. Later, Americans formed the Flying Tigers under the Nationalist Chinese Flag and the Eagle Squadron under the British Jack to fight Japan and Nazi Germany before the US entry into World War 2. A tale often overlooked in history is that of the handful of US pilots who flew for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War. One of these men, Frank Tinker, became an ace.
Frank Tinker
Frank Glasgow Tinker was born July 14, 1909 in the tiny Cajun town of Kaplan, deep in the swamps of Louisiana. At age 25, he joined the US Navy and after a few years won an appointment to the Naval Academy at Annapolis. He graduated from that school as an ensign in 1933 during the height of the Great Depression. Tinker became a floatplane pilot and flew scout missions from cruisers for a few years before being cashiered from the service in 1935. The next year the unemployed pilot presented himself to the Republican forces in Spain and was soon flying bombers for $1500 per month.
Going after a Messerschmidt in a biplane made in the Worker’s Paradise and serviced by questionably trained mechanics…..can you say balls?
Fighter pilot
Tinker, who had only ever flown scout planes and bombers, was reassigned to the 1st Escadrille de Chatos and given a Soviet built Polikarpov I-15 biplane. Alternating between No. 56 and No. 58 planes in the squadron, he shot down four German and Italian aircraft in a three-month period. This brought about his transfer to the Mosca Squadron and reassignment to an I-16 monoplane fighter. In the next three months flying over the lines, he downed another four aircraft. Remarkably these included the first ever victory over a German Condor Legion Messerschmidt BF109. When compared to Tinker’s dumpy I-16 (which Soviet pilots nicknamed “Ishak” –donkey), which had a top speed of 326mph, the Messerschmidt was more than 20% faster.
Death in exile
Tinker soon returned to America after hanging out with Hemingway and published a book, “Some Still Live,” about his flying in Spain in 1938. This brought him some notoriety but also blacklisted him from being able to rejoin the US military. Even though he had shot down eight planes in 6 months of combat (he claimed 11) in Spain, both the Army and Navy refused to allow him to reenlist. While waiting for a position with the Flying Tigers, he died of a self-inflected gunshot wound in a hotel room in Arkansas a month before his 30th birthday.
The inscription on his grave simply says, “Who knows?” in Spanish.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 9:09 am to The Boat
I personally like the one where Ironman and Captain America fought.
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:17 am to PiscesTiger
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The Chinese Civil War was[c] fought between forces loyal to the Kuomintang (KMT)-led government of the Republic of China, and forces loyal to the Communist Party of China (CPC).[9] T[b]he civil war began in August 1927, with Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek's Northern Expedition, and essentially ended when major hostilities ceased in 1950.[10] It can generally be divided into two stages; the first being from 1927 to 1937, and the second being from 1946 to 1950 with the Second Sino-Japanese War separating them. The war was a major turning point in modern Chinese history, with the CPC gaining control of almost the entirety of Mainland China, establishing the People's Republic of China (PRC) to replace the KMT's Republic of China (ROC). It also caused a lasting political and military standoff between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait, with the ROC in Taiwan and the PRC in mainland China both officially claiming to be the legitimate government of all of China.
The war represented an ideological split between the Communist CPC and the KMT's brand of Nationalism. It continued intermittently until late 1937, when the two parties came together to form the Second United Front to counter the Japanese threat and prevent the country from crumbling. China's full-scale civil war resumed in 1946, a year after the end of hostilities with Japan. Four years later came the cessation of major military hostilities, with the newly founded People's Republic of China controlling mainland China (including Hainan) and the Republic of China's jurisdiction being restricted to Taiwan, Penghu, Quemoy, Matsu and several outlying islands.
To this day no armistice or peace treaty has ever been signed, and there is debate about whether the Civil War has legally ended.[11] Cross-strait relations have been hindered by military threats and political and economic pressure, particularly over Taiwan's political status, with both governments officially adhering to a "One-China policy." The PRC still actively claims Taiwan as part of its territory and continues to threaten the ROC with a military invasion if the ROC officially declares independence by changing its name to and gaining international recognition as the "Republic of Taiwan". The ROC mutually claims mainland China, and they both continue the fight over diplomatic recognition. Today the war as such occurs on the political and economic fronts in the form of cross-Strait relations without actual military action; however, the two separate governments in China have close economic ties.[12]
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 2/12/17 at 11:34 am to rmnldr
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The interesting thing about wars aren't the number of lives taken or the fighting itself. It's the politics and political outcomes that make wars so interesting.
The opposite for me, the campaigns and battles are much more interesting than the political front.
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