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re: Is “Ms. Rachel” wholesome content in your opinion?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:23 am to Wayne Campbell
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:23 am to Wayne Campbell
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Literally none of this has anything to do with the "Ms. Rachel" show.
No not really, but obviously the discussion has shifted as many of these threads do. First time on a messageboard?
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
You're not the goodest reader, are you?
97% of "gender affirming" surgeries performed on teens between 15 and 17 were breast reductions on cis males. That's not transition surgery, that's gynecomastia treatment.
That study doesn't say anything about the other miniscule percent of participants, so you'll have to try again. It should be easy since this is a very real and increasingly common thing, right?
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The study found no gender-affirming surgeries performed on TGD youth ages 12 and younger in 2019. This was expected, the researchers said, as current international guidelines do not suggest any medical or surgical intervention for TGD individuals prior to puberty.
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When considering use of gender-affirming breast reductions among cisgender males and TGD people, the study found that cisgender males accounted for the vast majority of breast reductions, with 80% of surgeries among adults performed on cisgender men and 97% of surgeries among minors performed on cisgender male teens.
97% of "gender affirming" surgeries performed on teens between 15 and 17 were breast reductions on cis males. That's not transition surgery, that's gynecomastia treatment.
That study doesn't say anything about the other miniscule percent of participants, so you'll have to try again. It should be easy since this is a very real and increasingly common thing, right?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:26 am to HeckIt
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. That's not transition surgery,
I knew this would be your bullshite response. Sorry, you said any body part. Breasts are a body part. You lose, pervert.
And what exactly do you think gender affirming care is other than transitioning?
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:30 am to HeckIt
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97% of "gender affirming" surgeries performed on teens between 15 and 17 were breast reductions on cis males. That's not transition surgery, that's gynecomastia treatment.
Even if this is accurate, please explain the 3% since its not happening according to you
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:31 am to CAD703X
I can't find anything concrete about what he was claiming. "Gender affirming care" can mean a lot of things besides transition surgery.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:31 am to VolSquatch
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Even if this is accurate, please explain the 3% since its not happening according to you
Poor fella has no critical thinking skills
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:33 am to Pettifogger
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But, Rachel has come out and basically said she's woke and understands that some families will choose not to watch her because of it and it is what it is. Which I respect (the approach, not her belief system).
And I don't blame parents who just don't want to expose their kids to someone they know is of that mindset, with a weird theater husband and a nonbinary guest on the show, etc. That's where I'm at - I don't really think she's making any serious effort to corrupt America's children, but I don't want someone like her being an influence on my kids, either.
Great summary. Pretty much how I feel as well. I wouldn't even mind content wise still letting my kids watch her older stuff if not for the fact that I just don't want to support her. With the newer stuff post her "coming out" as woke, who knows what you're going to get.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:33 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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No, she has a tranny playing guitar on the show.
That was the end of Ms Rachel in my house, forever.
And it came out of right field. We go from talking about colors, counting, how to pronouce certain sounds and words, to bam! Here is a lesbo strumming her guitar in her apartment.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:34 am to LNCHBOX
Read, motherfricker. I said any body part for the purposes of transitioning. A cis straight guy with gynecomastia is not a woman, and getting breast tissue removed is not transitioning. Gender affirming care includes things like hair transplants for balding men, or breast implants for women.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:35 am to HeckIt
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Read, motherfricker
Eat shite, pervert.
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Gender affirming care includes things like hair transplants for balding men, or breast implants for women.
And frick off with the is weak arse semantics bullshite. You're moving trying to move the goal posts, and we aren't having it.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:35 am to VolSquatch
The study doesn't say anything about the 3%. Since you and your buddy are so adamant that this is a very real problem, why don't you explain the 3%, with sources besides X?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:36 am to VolSquatch
Yeah - when her lifestyle doesn't separate woke/non-woke, such that the things we think are inappropriate for kids are entirely normal to her, I just don't have confidence it's not going to seep into her content even if she isn't intended to advocate beliefs to kids.
It's like letting me be a mentor for your kids as a Christian, TBH. Even if my intention isn't to overtly talk to your kids about Christianity, it's probably going to come through at some point in some fashion.
It's like letting me be a mentor for your kids as a Christian, TBH. Even if my intention isn't to overtly talk to your kids about Christianity, it's probably going to come through at some point in some fashion.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:37 am to HeckIt
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Give me one instance of a real, certified, medical professional removing any part of a child's body because they wanted to transition.
Maybe you should read your own writing
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I said any body part for the purposes of transitioning
"for the purposes of transititioning =/= "because they wanted to transition"
Top surgery is "because they wanted to transition". I would argue it applies to both definitions, because if it didn't what would be the point of top surgery at all?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:37 am to LNCHBOX
I'm not moving the goal posts. The study that you linked literally refers to breast reduction in cis males as gender affirming surgery. Holy shite you're dense. Just read. Literally open your eyes and read.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:38 am to HeckIt
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The study doesn't say anything about the 3%. Since you and your buddy are so adamant that this is a very real problem, why don't you explain the 3%, with sources besides X?
I gave multiple sources that you didn't acknowledge. There are dozens if not hundreds of articles all over the internet about it. No one is denying that its happening anymore, except for you for some reason. The broader debate has moved on to "SHOULD it be happening?"
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:39 am to VolSquatch
Top surgery is a transitioning thing, yes. That 97% is cis males getting breast reductions. That's not transitioning, that's a cis male getting breast tissue removed, e.g. to treat gynecomastia. In cis males. Not trans men/women.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:41 am to HeckIt
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That 97% is cis males getting breast reductions. That's not transitioning
And the 3%? Breast cancer related surgeries aren't "gender affirming care"... so what other possible gender related reason would the 3% be? Lets hear it.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:43 am to HeckIt
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I'm not moving the goal posts.
You 100% are. You've gone from it never happens to it almost never happens. Go groom elsewhere.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:44 am to VolSquatch
You are right. A handful of teens do get top surgery for the purposes of transitioning. That meets my qualifications.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:47 am to LNCHBOX
The other guy actually provided sources to back up his claims, and he's right. A handful of teens get top surgery to transition.
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