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re: Is English considered a pretty language by non-English speakers?

Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:14 pm to
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Central and South Americans have told me English sounds like dogs barking
I came here to post this

Supposedly there is an old clip of Ricardo Montalban on The Tonight Show demonstrating what English sounds like to non-English speakers. From what I've read it did indeed sound like dogs barking.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:16 pm to
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Central and South Americans have told me English sounds like dogs barking

Which is how I think about German and Russian
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:20 pm to
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In my opinion the best English accent is West Indian
BBC starts Pidgin digital service for West Africa audiences

BBC news in pidgin
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Houston Flood: Double wahala as dam burst

On top of say hundreds of people still dey run from flooding wey tropical storm Harvey cause for di America city of Houston, Texas, one dam where water dey don burst, come overflow full ground.

At least nine people na im dem say don die so far, including six members from di same family wey be say flood troway their van, plus another man wey dey like over 60 years old ; im drown as e dey try swim to safe place.

Di matter don serious sotay President Donald Trump just land for Texas with im wife to take eye see everything for imself.

Governor Greg Abbott, say im want make President Trump understand wetin Texans dey go through, and di kind help wey dem need.

Mayor Sylvester Turner say di state don ask for help from di federal government "as soon as possible," to provide cots for baby dem, food and other things to help another 10,000 people wey dey area.

Mr Turner say dem no get choice but to ask di Federal Emergency Management Agency to enter di matter, because di main shelter for Texas get space for only 5,000 people.

But now e don pass 9,000 people wey dey squeeze inside there.

Im say officials go let people know where additional centers dey later today, so dat dem go fit find somewhere chook head put.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:22 pm to
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Which is how I think about German and Russian


I think German can actually sound nice with a proper cadence and voice, Russian is always choppy and angry sounding to me.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:25 pm to
We're definitely closer to the German end than French.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:26 pm to
You know what's the weirdest sounded (and looking) language? Welsh. Good lord, sheep frickers, get some vowels.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:31 pm to
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No one considers American English to be pleasant so it's always been a little surprising the best and most popular lyrical music is in English
Are you talking about rock and roll? R&R became popular b/c of the beat, not the words.

The language of opera is Italian -- b/c so many words end in vowels, which allows singers to hold notes melismatically

If you really dive into this subject you'll start to notice the rhythms of certain musics fit certain languages -- R&R is English, but Cajun music is French. I just listened to a 1956 version of "La Bamba" by Harry Belafonte, in English, set to a sort of calypso beat. Sometimes the words sound a bit awkward and don't fit the rhythm.

There's a later version of "La Bamba" in English by The Crickets, but the music is almost a straight surf-party beat w/only slight Latin influence. The words fit the rhythm much better.
Posted by metalunamutant
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:36 pm to
I seem to remember a quote from my youth which said French is the language to converse with, English is the language to swear with, Italian is the language to make love with, Spanish is the language to pray with and German is the language to drive hogs with.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:38 pm to
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I was told that the Brits much prefer the Southern accent from the US. Said it's much softer and more pleasant to the ears
That's b/c it's the closest to British English

If you want to hear what British English sounded like 250 years aho, go to the Appalachians and find an isolated community. With few non-British settlers and almost no blacks, Appalachian English has evolved far more slowly than British English.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:40 pm to
There's an island in NC that has what linguists believe to be the closest to settler English still around. I'll try to find the video of it.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:40 pm to
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French is the language to converse with, English is the language to swear with, Italian is the language to make love with, Spanish is the language to pray with, German is the language to start wars with, and Japanese is the language to sneak attack with
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:42 pm to
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From what I've been told, English isn't a soft language like Spanish and Italian. But American English is harsher than British English. I was told that the Brits much prefer the Southern accent from the US. Said it's much softer and more pleasant to the ears.




Basically this. English is as harsh to the ears, I'd imagine, as Russian, for example.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:42 pm to
English is the best language for puns

Which is fine by me since I like to punish people

Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:52 pm to
English and German share a bunch of similarities if I'm not mistaken. I would guess due to the Anglo-Saxons and Brits commingling for hundreds of years.

French sounds like a drunk person talking with a mouth full of marshmallows.

Spanish sounds like they aren't really saying anything because they speak too fricking fast.

German sounds like somebody is angry and really spitting out the words.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:58 pm to
I was just referring to the most popular genres worldwide. Pop, rock, rap. People around the world consume American movies and music. With movies the worldwide appeal is understandable. With music it's more surprising to me.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:00 pm to
Italian and French sound marvelous when spoken by a soft voiced woman. And actually Korean does too--I only say this Bc Lady Reinicorn on Adventure Time is speaking Korean and it's lovely.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:00 pm to
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English is the best language for puns
One day (in the future) you & I shall go punning on the Thames.

Maybe we could also invite Ray Guy?

That guy (says Jon Gruden?) is clearly not another pretty face.

Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:01 pm to
Anglo-Saxons were a Germanic tribe, who crushed the Britians and later the savage Viking raiders.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:05 pm to
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Pop, rock, rap. People around the world consume American movies and music.
English as the lingua franca of pop music is dying out, or at least not what it was. People can rap in any language.

This song from 1970 was an international #1 single, including the US. The singer did not speak English, but learned the words phonetically,
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:07 pm to
I have heard of this before but never actually heard the accent myself. Is it from the Tidewater region in Eastern Virginia or in the Carolinas? If I'm not mistaken it's almost extinct correct?
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