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re: Interesting discussion on whether a transgender person should reveal it to their partners
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:19 am to Antonio Moss
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:19 am to Antonio Moss
quote:It’s 100% the exact same thing. You aren’t entitled to your sex partner’s medical chart because you’re afraid they might be secretly transgender. If thats a problem with you, you probably don’t need to be having sex with people.
It's not remotely the same thing.
“I think that the lady I’m fricking might have had a penis once, and I need the government to step in and solve this for me.”
Just listen to how crazy some of you sound.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:19 am to xiv
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Interesting discussion on whether a transgender person should reveal it to their partnersA natal woman who can’t bear children is never required to disclose that information, so there’s no reason why trans people should have to do it. You’re allowed to have sex and keep stuff like that to yourself. It isn’t an STD.
You can have that attitude all you want but I live in reality and in my reality the penalty for not disclosing what sex you are prior to physical intimacy is far greater than an internet boycott or even a stern yelling. I am pretty sure that the men I know would seek incredible retribution if they were lied to in such a way. Being a Trans is already I assume a very difficult, taxing, and maybe dangerous lifestyle so adding lying into that mix would spell doomsday.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:21 am to sabanisarustedspoke
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I live in reality
quote:Does not compute. Feel free to tell your truth though.
and in my reality
Posted on 1/14/20 at 12:44 pm to xiv
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It’s 100% the exact same thing. You aren’t entitled to your sex partner’s medical chart because you’re afraid they might be secretly transgender. If thats a problem with you, you probably don’t need to be having sex with people. “I think that the lady I’m fricking might have had a penis once, and I need the government to step in and solve this for me.” Just listen to how crazy some of you sound.
It’s not a medical chart, this is something very real and relevant and would be deceptive if someone were a woman who used to be a man but didn’t tell their partner. Is it the governments place? I’d argue no, the less government intrusion the better. Morally though it absolutely should be disclosed prior to sex. That could infringe upon heir religious beliefs, ethics, who knows what.
What if somebody sold a dish as kosher but snuck pork in there and served it to a Jew? Morally I’m sure you’d say that is wrong. What’s different in this case?
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:11 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:We agree here, to the degree that this information is requested by a potential partner.
Is it the governments place? I’d argue no, the less government intrusion the better. Morally though it absolutely should be disclosed prior to sex.
quote:Not Dick’s job to make sure Jane’s beliefs aren’t violated.
That could infringe upon heir religious beliefs, ethics, who knows what.
quote:This is way worse. Lying about food ingredients can kill people. Your girlfriend lying about how many penes she used to have poses no such threat.
What if somebody sold a dish as kosher but snuck pork in there and served it to a Jew? Morally I’m sure you’d say that is wrong. What’s different in this case?
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:45 pm to DavidTheGnome
My daughter's best friend is trans. His name is Ryan but his real name is Emily. I hate it. It's weird when he is over. I don't understand it and I disagree with it but he is treated respectfully in my house. We call him by the Male name he has chosen and we don't question his lifestyle. He is only fifteen years old. His mother ridicules him and does not support him at all so he spends his weekends with us. Life is so much easier for non trans people. I pity most trans folks. Hell of a life.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:50 pm to DavidTheGnome
There would literally be a killing.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:54 pm to Commander Data
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Life is so much easier for non trans people. I pity most trans folks. Hell of a life.
It’s difficult, yes. But please don’t pity me or us. I’m doing just fine, I’m happy and healthy, and I’m incredibly lucky to have the support of my family, friends and loved ones.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:55 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Is an HIV infected person legally required to disclose it?
In Florida it's odd.
If you enter into an intimate relationship with someone, you are not legally bound to disclose your HIV status.
However with regards to real estate, it is mandatory to disclose if someone with HIV previously lived at the address. This is true for rentals too.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:57 pm to DavidTheGnome
They should reveal it mid blow job.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:47 pm to DavidTheGnome
This shouldn't even be up for discussion. If you had a sex change and you start talking to someone and it might be something that could get serious, it should be shared. If it was up to me, I would make them get some type of tattoo or some sort of visual so people will know.
That way, there is no confusion. Why even subject yourself to that? You don't want to get in a relationship and when everything is going well you tell them and that is something they want no part of.
That way, there is no confusion. Why even subject yourself to that? You don't want to get in a relationship and when everything is going well you tell them and that is something they want no part of.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:54 pm to xiv
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Lying about food ingredients can kill people.
So could lying about how many penises you've had stuffed in you
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:57 pm to xiv
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This is way worse. Lying about food ingredients can kill people. Your girlfriend lying about how many penes she used to have poses no such threat.
You think Jews don't eat pork because of allergies? You're a fricking moron.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:58 pm to DavidTheGnome
Sick world. Sick people in it. Just sad, sad, sad.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:44 pm to jchamil
quote:This is false and absurd.
So could lying about how many penises you've had stuffed in you
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:45 pm to Papplesbeast
quote:That’s not what I said. Your mother is a fricking moron.
You think Jews don't eat pork because of allergies? You're a fricking moron.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:45 pm to DavidTheGnome
There are people who are born with both.
A lot to discuss.
A lot to discuss.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:47 pm to xiv
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This is false and absurd.
Possibly absurd, not false
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:52 pm to jchamil
quote:Nah, what you said is factually wrong. You've been corrected.
Possibly absurd, not false
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:54 pm to xiv
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You've been corrected.
Nope
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