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re: Interesting, Atlanta is no longer majority black.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:23 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:23 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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let’s not get carried away
Am I wrong?
Let me put it another way, Atlanta has a lot of natural beauty/topography
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:23 pm to deeprig9
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They are absolutely not good schools.
The schools in the Grady/Midtown cluster are fine. The others? Probably not.
Which is why everyone wants to live in the neighborhoods zoned for those schools. Most my neighbors only use the private schools for high school now and that is becoming fewer and fewer and is mostly based on private school students getting a higher percentage of grant money vs their public school counterparts for college.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:26 pm to Pettifogger
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To be clear, there still aren't any nice parts of Atlanta that are predominantly black, but it's definitely true that Atlanta has an interspersed black middle (sometimes upper middle) class, including in nice areas. Something New Orleans doesn't really have and which is foreign to the rest of the country.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:28 pm to ronricks
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The schools in the Grady/Midtown cluster are fine.
That's a big step back from the statement I responded to calling them Top 20 in the state.
"Fine" is a fancy word for "average at best"
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:32 pm to deeprig9
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"Fine" is a fancy word for "average at best"
They are good schools. I'd certainly rather my kids go there than a lot of the schools in Gwinnett and Cobb that have hoards of kids who can't even speak English
Its like some of you haven't looked at the demographics of the Atlanta suburbs lately. Its certainly not 1990 anymore I can tell you that.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:42 pm to ronricks
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They are good schools. I'd certainly rather my kids go there than a lot of the schools in Gwinnett and Cobb that have hoards of kids who can't even speak English
Its like some of you haven't looked at the demographics of the Atlanta suburbs lately. Its certainly not 1990 anymore I can tell you that.
You are arguing against a position that nobody has made.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:42 pm to dallastiger55
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I’d still rather live in New Orleans than Atlanta.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:48 pm to deeprig9
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You are arguing against a position that nobody has made.
You said the schools are not good. I told you that there is one cluster that is indeed good. The city of Atlanta isn't for everyone but the biggest headache I deal with on a daily basis is pot holes. There are no Illegal Immigrants in my neighborhood, there are no homeless in my neighborhood. Its basically like Mayberry. The Atlanta suburbs are loaded with Illegals and a bunch of other stuff that didn't exist when I grew up in them. Its not 1985 anymore. Things have significantly changed.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:52 pm to ronricks
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The Atlanta suburbs are loaded with Illegals and a bunch of other stuff that didn't exist when I grew up in them. Its not 1985 anymore. Things have significantly changed.
This is the position you are arguing that nobody has taken a stance on.
You seem to be saying "Sure the Grady cluster isn't great, it's ok, but there's other bad clusters in the suburbs too!"
Nobody has said anything to the contrary.
In fact, you yourself said in this thread that most people in ViHi with teens take their kids out of the cluster for private school for high school.
Why would they do this?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:59 pm to deeprig9
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You seem to be saying "Sure the Grady cluster isn't great
I said they are good. Its you who has said they aren't. You are wrong because you are stuck in 1990 it seems.
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Nobody has said anything to the contrary.
You said they aren't good schools.
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In fact, you yourself said in this thread that most people in ViHi with teens take their kids out of the cluster for private school for high school.
I told you why. For the grant money that kids who go to private schools have a better % chance of receiving vs their public school peers for college. I have a neighbor who takes his kid all the way up to Blessed Trinity in Roswell for this specific reason.I work in Suwanee and I have heard all kinds of horror stories from coworkers about the public schools up here mainly because they are infested with low IQ illegal immigrants. We don't have that issue around me.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:03 pm to Lexis Dad
quote:yes
Am I wrong?
quote:I wish I was as easily impressed
Atlanta has a lot of natural beauty/topography
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:13 pm to ronricks
I'm not buying the grant money thing, it's typically the opposite, the private school kids are seen as privileged and the public school kids "deserve" the opportunity more. I'll need more info on this.
Back to Grady, err, Midtown High because Grady was racist...
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Their standardized test scores are certainly better than the city as a whole (low bar) and the state as a whole (also a low bar).
But in only one category on the Milestone standardized tests are the students achieving over 60% proficiency. Under 60% on all other categories.
Is it a "great" school by APS standards? Yes.
Is it a "great" school?
I don't think so.
Back to Grady, err, Midtown High because Grady was racist...
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Their standardized test scores are certainly better than the city as a whole (low bar) and the state as a whole (also a low bar).
But in only one category on the Milestone standardized tests are the students achieving over 60% proficiency. Under 60% on all other categories.
Is it a "great" school by APS standards? Yes.
Is it a "great" school?
I don't think so.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:14 pm to GumboPot
Gentrification or white flight, they disparage whitey coming and going
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:22 pm to deeprig9
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I'm not buying the grant money thing, it's typically the opposite, the private school kids are seen as privileged and the public school kids "deserve" the opportunity more. I'll need more info on this.
You are stuck in 1990 this has nothing to do with being 'woke' high achievers at Atlanta private schools have a higher chance of getting grant money for college vs their public school peers.
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Back to Grady, err, Midtown High because Grady was racist..
Nobody calls it Midtown high school everyone still refers to it as Grady.
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Their standardized test scores are certainly better than the city as a whole (low bar) and the state as a whole (also a low bar).
Public School education in Georgia has never been good. I can certainly tell you the schools I went to in Gwinnett growing up are far worse now than they were then. This isn't specific to Gwinnett either its across the whole metro while the schools in the city are improving. Why do you think this is?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:27 pm to ronricks
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I can certainly tell you the schools I went to in Gwinnett growing up are far worse now than they were then. This isn't specific to Gwinnett either its across the whole metro while the schools in the city are improving. Why do you think this is?
Nobody disagrees, you are yelling at cloud.
And you know why.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:31 pm to GumboPot
Oh god. Playing "Linger" by the Cranberries while trying really hard to seem "chill" by lackadaisical dancing on the roof of a house. Shoot me. I wouldn't last 3 minutes with how self-absorbed everyone at that block party must have been. Looks like a bunch of 25 year olds making $50k barely hurdling the "must make 3x rent in monthly income."
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:32 pm to SallysHuman
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This brings economic growth and new businesses but also causes cultural loss and affordability issues
Strange, isn't it, how 'economic growth' and 'culture' can't coexist...
In one neighborhood they'll rail against gentrification and in the next they'll rail against 'white flight'. It only makes sense by first understanding:
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They don't want things to get better for themselves: they want things to get worse for you
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:37 pm to GumboPot
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cultural loss
Addition by subtraction.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:52 pm to SallysHuman
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not, at ALL care for whitey in their own spaces.
In my experience yes, and no. If a random white dude just starts showing up in the hood, they'll obviously wonder why. If you're known around there there's no problem. If alot of white people start showing up, they know ship's about to start getting more expensive because of gentrification.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 2:59 pm to GumboPot
If that's true it's more worrisome how they keep electing stupid candidates just like other Lib cities; New Orleans etc.
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