re: Inside story of the Nagasaki mission

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Your name has USMC in it. There's no point in arguing with you.

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by Pkin

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Willfully ignorant bitch.

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And the fact their citizens were brainwashed into believing America would have no mercy and kill them all. Children as young as 6 were receiving military/suicide training. Every one of them would have fought to the death in a mainland invasion.

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Wow sounds really similar to the religion of peace......

This PKin bitch is the reason women shouldn't be allowed to vote

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And the fact their citizens were brainwashed into believing America would have no mercy and kill them all. Children as young as 6 were receiving military/suicide training. Every one of them would have fought to the death in a mainland invasion.

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Wow sounds really similar to the religion of peace......

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In many regards they are similar. The Japanese thought they were fighting for their god and they saw the greatest service they could give to their god was by dying on the battlefield for him. There was literally no surrender for them for most of the war. In fact, in most campaigns fought in the Pacific, there were wither no Japanese prisoners taken or very few. And most of them were conscripted Korean workers. Only in the last couple of campaigns did the number of Japanese soldiers surrendering start to rise. Most of them chose to commit mass suicide via "Banzai" charges or doing something like holding a grenade up to their chest and pulling the pin or, if they were and officer, committing ritualistic suicide using their samurai sword.

And this dedication to dying for their god/emperor was not limited to just those in the military. This belief known as the "Bushido Code" also permeated the civilian population. This was made very evident via the mass suicides of the Japanese civilians during the Battle of Saipan and later on in the masses of men, women, and children who trained and organized to fight an expected American invasion. When it became apparent that invasion was inevitable, the Japanese established the Volunteer Fighting Corps which consisted of every able bodied male and female as young as 12. Yes, they were training 12 yr old girls and boys to fight and they were fully expected to die. Here's a picture of some of the schoolgirls they were preparing to go into battle...

Now, as far as dropping or not dropping he bombs. Had we chose not to drop them and instead chose to invade. What do you suppose would have happened to a bunch of 12 yr old girls and boys armed with old bolt action rifles that were almost as long as they were tall and they barely knew how to use when they came up against a fully mechanized American force backed up with massive air & naval support? How many of them would have lived for more than a few moments? And how many American GI's & Marines would be maimed or killed rooting them out?

Considering all the facts, the only logical conclusion that a rational, sane person can come to is that while using the atomic bombs was terrible beyond imagination, it was ultimately the correct choice that ended the war sooner and with less bloodshed and death that would have come from either invasion or continued blockade.

To be fair, we could've detonated them just off the coast of Japan to reduce casualties but to demonstrate our power. I believe that detonating them 1 - 5 miles off coast or in a harbor would've resulted in their surrender.

I'm not entirely convinced they had to be dropped over the center of large cities.

However, it worked. The Japs surrendered. Thousands of American lives were saved. Japan is now our ally.

It is what it is.

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It didn't matter which bomb was more powerful or yielded a higher kill ratio...the bombs had one purpose - terror.

And it worked.

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You're correct. But I will point out that Hiroshima & Nagasaki were chosen for targeting because they had two things we were looking for, (1) they were still for the most part intact and had not already been heavily bombed and (2) they were legitimate military targets of strategic importance.

Hiroshima was the HQ of the 2nd General Army that was in charge of all forces in Southern Japan. It was from here that the Japanese would have coordinated their efforts to resist the first phase of the Invasion of Japan code-named "Operation Olympic". Thus, even if the bombs did not compel the Japanese to surrender, what bombing Hiroshima would have achieved was the knock out the main command & control center (not to mention their heavy weapons stockpiles and mountains of supplies) of where the first American troops would have come ashore. Bombing Hiroshima for all intents and purposes meant that Southern Japan was now indefensible and wide open for invasion.

As for Nagasaki, it was one of the largest ports and centers of weapons production in Southern Japan, including the vital Mitsubishi steel & arms works. Knocking out this target meant that Japan's ability to continue to produce weapons for their armed forces was severely handicapped.

has anybody asked for pics of tits yet ?

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It was actually cloud cover, but yeah, it was not the primary.

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Both, most likely:

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Additionally, the Yawata Steel Works intentionally burned coal tar, to produce black smoke.[181] The clouds and smoke resulted in 70% of the area over Kokura being covered, obscuring the aiming point.

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War is war.

They should have dropped one on Tokyo.