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re: Inside story of the Nagasaki mission
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:29 pm to Pkin
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:29 pm to Pkin
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They treated the Chinese terribly but stooping to that level is pretty sad.
"Terribly" is a massive understatement
Stooping to their level?
We'd have to go much lower.
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I don't understand how anyone can think a-bombing two large cities was justified.
Did they teach history wherever you were educated?
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 11:31 pm
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:29 pm to Pkin
quote:Because the first one didn't end the war, idiot.
I love America but I don't understand how anyone can think a-bombing two large cities was justified.
The second one did.
You never heard the joke about two black eyes?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:32 pm to Pkin
Just how stupid are you? People keep clubbing you over the head with facts but you refuse to accept it. The two bombings saved 100,000s and probably millions of American and Japanese lives.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:33 pm to Breesus
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Just pointing out that they were told American would have no mercy.
I'm really not trying to bash you. However, "no mercy" didn't mean dropping a couple of bombs on a couple cities. There is video, audio, and textual proof of the Jap military propaganda. "Bloodthirsty American dogs will kill your babies in their cribs" is the most prominent one i remember. They were talking hand to hand bloody slaughter, not dropping bombs.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:34 pm to Pkin
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Please inform me of something the Japanese did that was worse than what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
They would kidnap Korean womena dn force them into prostitution.
They would torture pows rather than adhgere to the geneva conventions. They only didn't attack the US in this way because they could not get to us. They tried bombs on balloons and also tried raiding fishing villages in Alaska.
They attacked the US first.
They encouraged their citizens and soldiers to fight to the death and kill themselves before surrender.
To invade would have cost over a Million lives, that 200k seems like a bargain. Also the firebombings killed more people.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:35 pm to Jim Rockford
This is also interesting. There was a guy (Tsutomu Yamaguchi) who survived both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:36 pm to go_tigres
I've been to the beaches of Normandy and to the American cemetery there. I've also been to Pearl Harbor and to Japan. I don't live in a box and drink the American History Book Koolaide. I know what happened there.
Soldier on soldier combat is different than a-bombing two cities. America is better than that. I'll always stand by that.
Soldier on soldier combat is different than a-bombing two cities. America is better than that. I'll always stand by that.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:38 pm to Pkin
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I know what happened there.
You don't know shite.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:39 pm to Pkin
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Please inform me of something the Japanese did that was worse than what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Read up on Unit 731
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:39 pm to Pkin
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They treated the Chinese terribly but stooping to that level is pretty sad.
Other people in here are getting emotional about their fathers being in the war. That is completely irrelevant.
I love America but I don't understand how anyone can think a-bombing two large cities was justified.
Were you okay with the fire bombings/ They killed more people.
The nukes forced surrender. I don;t think you really know much about this topic other than "nukes are bad".
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:40 pm to Pkin
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've been to the beaches of Normandy and to the American cemetery there. I've also been to Pearl Harbor and to Japan. I don't live in a box and drink the American History Book Koolaide. I know what happened there
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:41 pm to Choupique19
Those aren't facts, those are speculations.
And all "facts" given are saying millions "probably" would have died. Also, all Japanese war crimes mentioned were against other countries.
Nothing on the scale of Hiroshima and Nagasaki has ever happened to the United States.
And all "facts" given are saying millions "probably" would have died. Also, all Japanese war crimes mentioned were against other countries.
Nothing on the scale of Hiroshima and Nagasaki has ever happened to the United States.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:44 pm to Pkin
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Nothing on the scale of Hiroshima and Nagasaki has ever happened to the United States.
well...good.
Maybe they should of thought about the pain of getting stung before they kicked the hornet's nest.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:46 pm to Breesus
Breesus you've been arguing both sides, not sure if you're just trolling.
Does everyone you know think the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were justified and proud moments in American history?
Does everyone you know think the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were justified and proud moments in American history?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:47 pm to Pkin
quote:You claim to be a female. No point in speaking logically to you.
Your name has USMC in it. There's no point in arguing with you.
To casual observers, that's kind of wrong, but so fitting in this case.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:49 pm to Pkin
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all Japanese war crimes mentioned were against other countries.
Yeah, the Bataan Death March didn't happen. You are worthlessly ignorant.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:49 pm to Pkin
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Does everyone you know think the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were justified and proud moments in American history?
Winning the war was a proud moment in American history......
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:50 pm to Pkin
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ve America but I don't understand how anyone can think a-bombing two large cities was justified.
We warned them.. We even showed them and they still wouldn't surrender.. Justification was warranted knowing full well that America was tired and war weary from fighting on opposite sides of the world.. We needed the war to end..that's justification enough. But to add to that.. We were the best possible country to complete the science and to use the science. Our isolation, our government style and our sensibilities prove this out make no mistake....a bomb was going to be used by someone at somepoint.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:50 pm to Rich Kotite
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There is video, audio, and textual proof of the Jap military propaganda.
Shitloads of mirrored American propaganda as well.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:51 pm to Breesus
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I have no idea why im being bashed and down voted.
You do know the bomb killed hundreds of thousands of people in two civilian targets many of whom were women and children right?
I haven't made a political stance one way or the other.
Just pointing out that they were told American would have no mercy. We didnt. And they folded.
Our actions were absolutely necessary, and for the result, the closest to merciful that could be had from the situation. Our actions afterwards were the epitome of merciful for a nation that had exercised such incredible long term atrocities.
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