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re: I’m not buying all the Helen Keller stuff
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:49 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:49 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
I wonder if Helen Keller ever got laid.
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:50 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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I wonder if Helen Keller ever got laid.
Why does Helen Keller use her left hand to play with herself? So she can moan with her right hand.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:51 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Not sure why OP is getting slaughtered. This is a reasonable question.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:54 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Always seemed strange to me. Believing in God was less challenging than believing in Helen Keller's story. Maybe she was an angel.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:01 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
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Blind and deaf
She probably had just awful vision and was extremely hard of hearing. But that doesn’t make for as good of a story.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:05 pm to habz007
quote:Maybe up until they replaced her eyes with glass ones, but I would think if they worked at all they wouldn't have done that.
She probably had just awful vision
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:07 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
Helen Keller, the worst instagram follow
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:07 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Close your eyes, cover your ears and try to do literally anything
You mean like thinking?
Imagine never having seen or heard anything. What do you even think? How do you even form your thoughts? Just be in your own homemade internal language.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:08 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:It's reasonable to question whether all her works are 100% her own, but OP asked some really dumb questions.
Not sure why OP is getting slaughtered. This is a reasonable question.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:15 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
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No, but I think believing Helen Keller accomplished all that she apparently did is about as ridiculous as believing in a flat earth
I can see how someone of your apparent mental capacity could reach the conclusion that she could not have done any of that.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:17 pm to Jeb Busch Lite
You need to read Tap Code by Smitty Harris. POWs in Hanoi couldn’t see or talk to each other, but they still managed to communicate. It is and isn’t the same thing. If I tapped Shave and a haircut on your forehead enough times, you would eventually answer Two Bits. That would start a way of knowing we can communicate. We just have to learn how. Tap Code describes how they did it.
Once Helen finally figured out that hand movements were tied to things, she was able to learn.
Once Helen finally figured out that hand movements were tied to things, she was able to learn.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:26 pm to fr33manator
wow, that video ought to shut that guy up
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:31 pm to Allyn McKeen
quote:Yeah it probably took her a while to realize that the hand gestures were symbols for labeling things, but once you get past that hurdle it gives you something to build on and start to make connections between objects and ideas. Also keep in mind that she could see and hear until she was nearly two, so her brain was already wired with an idea of what the world looks like, and the gist of language.
Once Helen finally figured out that hand movements were tied to things, she was able to learn.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:03 pm to rondo
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I know several Deaf / Blind individuals.
I have given a ride home to a Deaf / Blind lady from Lafayette to Baton Rouge and she knew it was her exit simply by the way the road felt.
Your obvious low bar of what a human can accomplish with hearing and sight has clouded your judgment pal. You can't imagine a world where you can't write one book would be the same world where a person who can't hear or see could write 12.
This still does not answer the question, if a person is born bilnd and deaf, how are they taught to communicate, what language is, that the unknown thing tapping on their hand is another human being. Explain it to us.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:08 pm to biglego
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Imagine never having seen or heard anything. What do you even think? How do you even form your thoughts? Just be in your own homemade internal language.
Im asking the same thing, and all the people critizing the OP can come up with is we are ignorant if we dont understand that blind and deaf people so amazing things.
So someone smarter explain to me what is the first step to teach someone blind and deaf to communicate, hows it done?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:15 pm to EA6B
Right. And it’s a vastly different situation from anyone who lost those senses later in life. Maybe having those senses as a toddler was the difference for her? I don’t know. Aside from her time as a toddler, she’d have no base of knowledge. No frame of reference other than touching things and forming her own thoughts in her own internal language that would be unintelligible to anyone else.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:18 pm to Allyn McKeen
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You need to read Tap Code by Smitty Harris. POWs in Hanoi couldn’t see or talk to each other, but they still managed to communicate. It is and isn’t the same thing. If I tapped Shave and a haircut on your forehead enough times, you would eventually answer Two Bits. That would start a way of knowing we can communicate. We just have to learn how. Tap Code describes how they did it.
Not even close to the same thing, these men already knew a language and knew the other men shared the same langage, they imediatly knew that a repeated pattern of tapping had to be a code. If someone taps on the arm of a person deaf and blind since birth how could they possibly know it has any meaning, they have smelled things, they have touched things. You could give a ball for the first time to a blind and deaf two year old, they can toouch and hold it to the end of time and never learn anything about. They dont know what "round" is, words do not exist in their mind until they are taught, how is that accomplished.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:19 pm to EA6B
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So someone smarter explain to me what is the first step to teach someone blind and deaf
Pinball, baw.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:22 pm to EA6B
This whole thread is fricking weird.
She cant hear. She cant see. She also couldn't speak.
People acting like STRICTLY smelling, tasting and feeling over the entirety of a childhood/adult life can ultimately translate to complex thoughts and the completion of a dozen books?
frick OP and his dumb questions. The point of the post is legitimate and has yet to be answered.
She cant hear. She cant see. She also couldn't speak.
People acting like STRICTLY smelling, tasting and feeling over the entirety of a childhood/adult life can ultimately translate to complex thoughts and the completion of a dozen books?
frick OP and his dumb questions. The point of the post is legitimate and has yet to be answered.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:23 pm to biglego
My thoughts too. With no hearing or vision, how do you even place meaning behind words or objects.
You could teach her the sound of a bird but how tf would she even be able to get an idea of what a bird is. It seems like a such a life devoid of any meaning or purpose. Or maybe it’s the opposite and everyday is an adventure
You could teach her the sound of a bird but how tf would she even be able to get an idea of what a bird is. It seems like a such a life devoid of any meaning or purpose. Or maybe it’s the opposite and everyday is an adventure
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