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re: Im becoming a conspiracy nut

Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37013 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:40 pm to
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but building 7 falling the way it did will forever leave some doubt in my mind.


I've seen videos talking about that, but quite honestly, they could have said building 7 was built using candy corn and people would take it as the truth.

Just because someone made a video doesn't make it true.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68042 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:41 pm to
If you believe in the demolition stuff and other theories related to physical evidence, then it's basically trusting one side's experts over another. So, you basically have to believe in Architects/Engineers 9/11 Truth dudes over the dozens/hundreds that support the official story. I guess that's your prerogative, but unless you really understand the physics, engineering, and chemistry, etc., I don't know how you can tell who's right. All of that said, Building 7 looks like a load of bull to me. But, I am too dumb to understand the hard science.

I do think there are some interesting theories on the non-physical evidence. I always thought the wargames stunk a bit. This guy's theory for the motive doesn't carry much weight now with energy prices in the tank, but the means and opportunity are interesting.
Simplifying the case against Dick Cheney.
That said, I think you'd have something more along the lines of privatized military/intel running things, not a government official with a bad heart. That is the idea this crazy guy Webster Tarpley talks about in his Synthetic Terror book.



Truthers always seemed to be split down the middle on the Pentagon. Half believe it's the achilles heel of the official story and that some missile/drone thing hit the Pentagon, while others said those theories are disinfo and that the official story is true there.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 7:56 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:44 pm to
all the shite that has been done to us since then and you have to go all the way back to that to find something to be suspicious about?
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8242 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:46 pm to
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Building 7 looks like a load of bull to me


I don't need the reports to be skeptical. Just watch the video in frame by frame. Fire is chaotic and random. There was no randomness in the way that building fell. Add that to the fact that 3 buildings fell in there own footprint that day and something smells fishy. That is like being dealt a royal flush 3 hands in a row.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:46 pm to
"It's best to remain ignorant. Trust me."

-Uncle Sam
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37321 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:48 pm to
There is no doubt in my mind that Saudi Arabia knew that the attacks were going to happen.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:50 pm to
The thing that always makes me question these events is that in numerous terror attacks on western countries a common thing is that they happen during training excercises that resemble the actual attacks and things that would alert people are brushed aside as part of the training excercises and then confusion is amplified when the actual attack goes down due to all the training chatter and activities.

Too many damn coincidences too many times.

FBI evidence tied to the Clintons activities in Arkansas was destroyed in the OKC Murrah Building attack.

Pentagon financials tied to black operations destroyed in the pentagon attack.

Building 7 housed sensitive and important documents...


There's no reason to believe that CIA operations have stopped or slowed down post Cold War. Just the lines of morality and justice have become extremely blurred.
This post was edited on 5/14/16 at 6:35 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122013 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:54 pm to
When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, the US sort of "provoked" them. We cut off their oil supply. I think FDR was expecting some type of retaliation, but not to the degree in which they did.

At the time, public opinion was against the US getting involved in WWII. After Japan attacked where did we go? We went to Europe first, then took care of Japan after Hitler was defeated.

Of course, after we were bombed, public opinion suddenly shifted and there was a lot more support for us to go to war.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:58 pm to
Popular Science did an entire show using world renowned physicists, engineers, and architects to debunk literally every dumbshit conspiracy theory out there
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:01 pm to
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Add that to the fact that 3 buildings fell in there own footprint that day and something smells fishy


Dumb shite like this is why people need to listen to actual experts and not YouTube videos and people trying to sell books
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 8:02 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
91828 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:01 pm to
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Dumb shite like this is why people need to listen to actual experts and not YouTube videos



now what would be the fun of that?
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26540 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:03 pm to
George bush Sr. Gives a new world order speech 10 years earlier in 9/11/1991 LINK

People forget day before 9/11 there was a big story Donald Rumsfeld said 2.3 trillion dollars were missing from the pentagon.LINK

Next day pentagon's accounting department gets hit and here is the 9/11 commissionar slipping saying a missile hit the pentagon. LINK

Here is Donald Rumsfeld saying the plane was shot down over Pennsylvania.LINK

I always thought it was weird that on 9/11 the homeland defense team was running a drill that we were attacked and was hours away from the attacks. The London bus bombings in 2005 the police were practicing a drill that a bus bombing had happened and they get attacked the same day.LINK
People forget before the Boston marathon bombing happened the police team were doing a drill that a bomb went off and sure enough they get attacked on the same day. LINK

A lot of unanswered questions.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 8:18 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8858 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:04 pm to
My mother and father in law were on the Staten Island ferry the morning the planes hit. He says you could see faces in the Windows as the planes flew over the water and towards the WTC. While I think there was more to it, there's no doubt in my mind those planes hit those buildings.
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 8:05 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
91828 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:06 pm to
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I always thought it was weird that on 9/11 the homeland defense team was running a drill that we were attacked and was hours away from the attacks. The London bus bombings in 2005 the police were practicing a drill that a bus bombing had happened and they get attacked the same day. People forget before the Boston marathon bombing happened the police team were doing a drill that a bomb went off and sure enough they get attacked on the same day. A lot of unanswered questions.

there was an article in one of those conservative mags, Time I think it was, that eerily predicted the 9/11 scenario about 5 years before it happened
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:07 pm to
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Add that to the fact that 3 buildings fell in there own footprint that day and something smells fishy

Obviously the cleanest demolition job ever:

LINK to fullsize picture

Another shot of debris falling into it's "footprint:"


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I don't need the reports to be skeptical.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
91828 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:09 pm to
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there's no doubt in my mind those planes hit those buildings.

having known two of the crewmembers that were on those planes, and their families, if it was a hoax, they sincerely wish it would be called off and let everyone come home
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38121 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:09 pm to
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After reading about the saudis involvement in 9/11 I think I'm starting to believe that 9/11 was staged


that's like saying WWII was staged because American companies were actively doing business with Hitler. It just means we have an idiotic govt and idiotic foreign policy and based on the idea that 'the enemy of our enemy is our friend.'
This post was edited on 5/13/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:09 pm to
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Please provide link to what you have been reading b



saudis and 9/11

why are we going to war
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38121 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:10 pm to
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Pentagon financials tied to black operations destroyed in the pentagon attack.


Wait I thought the Pentagon attack never happened? Which is it?
Posted by cincyykid
in a swamp far far away
Member since Mar 2016
1302 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:11 pm to
You mean that someone predicted that one of the biggest symbols of the United states could be attacked? Ya don't say.
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