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re: I'd rather Entergy over PG&E

Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:18 pm to
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Fire authorities have officially determined that Pacific Gas and Electric Co. was responsible for last year's deadly Camp Fire in Paradise, California. ... “Cal Fire announced today that it has determined that PG&E electrical transmission lines near Pulga were a cause of the Camp Fire.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:18 pm to
Why’d you move out here? Welcome! Best decision of your life.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:19 pm to
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You really have to screw up bad to start a fire using AC,
yes, welcome to PG&E,,, this has been going on for years
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:20 pm to
Live in The bay

Definitely best decision of my life

Doing well
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:21 pm to
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Live in The bay

what town?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:21 pm to
Stick to Baytown ya scrub.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:22 pm to
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Baytown
I dont live anywhere near a plant or the poors that work at plants
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:24 pm to
Nah I know bro. I miss that food fest we went to. That was fun as hell.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:24 pm to
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Ever heard of Paradise, CA?


I just slogged through a truly interminable Wikipedia article about this place and the fire that happened there. It did not convince me that commercial electrical service had any connection to that fire.

Electrical sparks do not easily ignite kindling. Most if not all recorded fires started by sparks (pre-Paradise, CA) have involved an accumulated flammable gas. There's no evidence of that in Paradise, CA.

Wikiepdia did convince me that PG&E had the deepest pockets and the most guilty demeanor of anyone who might have had something to do with it... by some mechanism.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:26 pm to
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That was fun as hell.


it was, was glad you could join us



but glad you made Texas less gay and California more gay with one person moving


so saint , answer the fricking question
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Electrical sparks do not easily ignite kindling.


Man, you are some kind of out of your league here.

We have cars that spark (chains dragging or stupid shite like that) causing brushfires all the time here. All the time.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:28 pm to
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Man, you are some kind of out of your league here.



yeah, he's all sorts of stupid and that saying somehting considering who else posts here
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:33 pm to
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We have cars that spark (chains dragging or stupid shite like that) causing brushfires all the time here. All the time.


Funny how you never hear about that happening in places that don't elect people who perceive a moral imperative to reduce the American standard-of-living... when's the last time it happened in West Texas, for example?

The LA Times is running an article right now with the headline "Did PG&E Power Lines Cause the Destructive Kincaid Fire?" Inevitably, the answer to any headline phrased as a yes/no question is "no." LINK
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:35 pm to
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Funny how you never hear about that happening in places that don't elect people who perceive a moral imperative to reduce the American standard-of-living... when's the last time it happened in West Texas, for example?


What?

LOL, all I was arguing is that sparks easily ignite brush out here. Now you’re ranting.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:37 pm to
thanks a lot Obama
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:40 pm to
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What?


I think it's a very valid question: if commercial electrical service really causes rampant wildfires in CA, why do we not observe this elsewhere?

California has some pretty unique weather patterns and flora... but so unique that they're the only place on the planet that feels compelled to shut off people's electricity for days at a time?

Where's the science? Show me evidence this actually reduced fires. Better yet, show me a cost/benefit analysis.

Even if people dragging shite from there car starts fires, that says nothing about power lines. I can drag a chain behind my car for a few miles and generate prolonged sparks and high temperatures, and do so all over the place. Does a fallen power line do that?

I just think the whole thing is completely unscientific, unsound ethically and economically, and probably just reprehensible arse-covering by PG&E (a thoroughly rotten organization).

You'll pick apart some of this but you can't debunk it in any overall way.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:41 pm to
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Now you’re ranting.


You meant FLAMING??!?!?!

LOLOL. A PUN! GET IT?

ARE MY KNIVES IN THE MAIL?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Member since Jun 2004
198020 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 7:42 pm to
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West Texas
flat, no trees

the population is centered around towns that are far apart and in the open, power lines run straight
also Texas infrastructure


California,

mountainous terrain,, shite ton of tree

small towns all over, power lines have to get there


and California infrastructure
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69563 posts
Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:04 pm to
You’re asking a frick ton of questions.

All I said was that electrical lines can cause fires. You said, early in the thread, that you found that unlikely.

Now you know they can. My work here is done.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 8:18 pm to
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