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re: Ian Observation Thread (Storm Track and Radar inside)

Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:28 pm to
Did y’all split and I missed it?
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:32 pm to
If tropical storms are warm core with low level low pressure, how can it strengthen when it runs up against a front with cool air at the surface? I get the water is warm, but not far above that the air isn't.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Hurricane Ian is back.


I believe in look alone though, right, not actual obs?
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2356 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Did y’all split and I missed it?



Just trying to help differentiate btwn the trailer park/mobile home park…it’s two different worlds- and I never really saw the large park/small homes neighborhood until central Florida and south ….hundreds of those small homes w/paved roads and big community centers for bingo and shuffle board lots
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66387 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:37 pm to
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If tropical storms are warm core with low level low pressure, how can it strengthen when it runs up against a front with cool air at the surface? I get the water is warm, but not far above that the air isn't.

It is all about flow and how different levels of the atmosphere react with each other. The positioning of the storm relative to the trough plays the biggest part.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:38 pm to
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I get the water is warm, but not far above that the air isn't.


That helps. As long as the front ain't into the circulation and it's still feeding off the warm water. All the colder air aloft would do is support convection, assuming it isn't bone dry. Often times though, it's gonna be dry behind the front too.

Now if the cold surface air starts getting pulled in/merges with the front, it ain't tropical anymore. Though it could strengthen off that interaction.

I don't think there's much front interaction happening, except for the beefy rain totals north of the system. What's going on is it's catching upper level divergence, supporting convection and outflow. Hence strengthening, despite the core being disrupted at this point.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:38 pm to
I keep seeing SC will be Ian's 3rd landfall. It hit Florida and where else?
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3187 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:38 pm to
Cuba
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
14244 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:42 pm to
TYFYS
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66387 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:42 pm to
There's a plane en route to Ian currently.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 5:02 pm
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17931 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:42 pm to
I guess I assumed the front was already pulled down as part of the circulation. But if that were to happen, it would classified as subtropical?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:46 pm to
Extratropical when it feeds off the spatial temperature difference, like you describe.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 4:58 pm to
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The damage is unreal, but that is a pic of a trailer park.


Trailer park lives matter too
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37575 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:11 pm to
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Have family at beach in Charleston on vacation who refuse to leave early.


Tell your family to look at what we just went through here and to think about whether or not they are fricking idiots.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14065 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:13 pm to
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Extratropical when it feeds off the spatial temperature difference, like you describe.


folks want to see crazy subtropical/extratropical lows. See some of the fall/winter storms in Alaska. They are quiet impressive to look at on vis
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66387 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:15 pm to
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folks want to see crazy subtropical/extratropical lows. See some of the fall/winter storms in Alaska. They are quiet impressive to look at on vis

They just had a big one.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5091 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:19 pm to
That is way more of a loss than the McLaren.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
46829 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:25 pm to
With that spoiler that thing probably took flight
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:29 pm to
It'll be fixed.

If it's a real one you basically can't total it short of burning it to the ground. Melting the trim tags in the process.

*Look for it on Copart soon.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 5:32 pm
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