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re: I hate weak minded people (Scott Peterson case)
Posted on 5/23/21 at 4:53 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 5/23/21 at 4:53 pm to Obtuse1
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Requesting a bench trial in a criminal case is a very rare occurrence.
Makes sense. I didn't know that and thanks to you and WestSideTiger. In hindsight the logic of 1/12 vs 1/1 is obvious. If you've served on a jury however that is subject to question, at least from my one experience.
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:06 pm to alpinetiger
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In hindsight the logic of 1/12 vs 1/1 is obvious. If you've served on a jury however that is subject to question, at least from my one experience.
Me saying you only have to win over one is a bit of a stretch unless that 1 is very strong willed. As a trial attorney one of the skills is identifying the juror(s) that you need to target. You have to present the case through their lens.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:13 pm to WaydownSouth
With deliberate bias, a film maker can make any guilty person appear to have been wrongfully convicted. It's a better story to create doubt than to just leave things alone.
Juries don't just find somebody guilty for the heck of it, especially of murder.
Juries don't just find somebody guilty for the heck of it, especially of murder.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:19 pm to Obtuse1
quote:The other aspect is forming the jury and alternates (voir dire?). I'd guess two things: First, it seems the judge has a lot of descretion over the process. So if the judge doesn't have the rule of law as foremost in mind you could be looking at a stacked deck. Second, as an attorney you can really impact your outcome in this phase.
Me saying you only have to win over one is a bit of a stretch unless that 1 is very strong willed. As a trial attorney one of the skills is identifying the juror(s) that you need to target. You have to present the case through their lens.
Regardless of thoughts of Chauvin's guilt or innocence, how did his defense attorney allow a tainted jurist? That seems like law school 101.
Anyway it becomes in the end a question if you let the guilty go free, or you jail a (potentially) innocent person. I hate for people or me to feel like justice wasn't served, but the line has to be that we let guilty people walk if the case isn't overwhelming.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:23 pm to Eternally Undefeated
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Juries don't just find somebody guilty for the heck of it, especially of murder.
This happens all the time. Just look at the overturns on DNA. There are biased halfwits on juries.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:44 pm to chalmetteowl
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“Fake news” wasn’t even a thing in 2002
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:48 pm to alpinetiger
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First, it seems the judge has a lot of descretion over the process.
Another advantage of jury trial is a judge can keep evidence from ever being seen by a jury. In a bench trial a judge can’t unsee even the evidence he rules inadmissible.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:52 pm to WaydownSouth
Scott “I’m innocent” Peterson was caught by police just over the Tijuana border with dyed hair, his brothers ID, camping supplies, and $15,000 cash.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 5:56 pm to LooseCannon22282
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frick your feelings
seems like you are in yours...
His post history is filled him starting threads about how he feels about other people
Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:06 pm to SECdragonmaster
quote:So you're saying an innocent man wouldn't do that? I think he was four months under a microscope before being arrested. If I were innocent and felt the threat of being arrested, jailed, and executed I'd consider an escape plan for something I didn't do. Wouldn't you?
Scott “I’m innocent” Peterson was caught by police just over the Tijuana border with dyed hair, his brothers ID, camping supplies, and $15,000 cash.
You're conflating whatever horseshite you've consumed from 20/20 or some news outlet. Let me say this, I have no idea what happened. But I took the time to read transcripts and listen to audio. Not much, but some. From what I've seen he's not guilty in a court of law.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:14 pm to SouthernStyled
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Did he not appeal? Seems like if the trial was so emotional for the jury a quiet appeal would have worked. So either he hasn't or it failed, should tell you all you need to know.
You can’t just appeal the outcome. You have to argue a procedural fault occurred that affected the outcome. You are also largely bound to bring up complaints that you brought up in trial that the judge ruled against you on.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:03 pm to Havoc
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I don’t give a frick if you’re boning Jessica Alba and your wife is Hillary Clinton, if you’re first unborn baby is missing any human soul would be visibly and verbally upset.
ETA: okay maybe if it was Hillary.
Bill Clinton would not have been found guilty if he had killed Hillary to bone Jessica Alba.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:11 pm to Zendog
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Amber still looking good
Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:32 pm to Christopher Columbo
Amber Frye is not my physical type but obviously takes care of herself. Sexy. Scott Peterson's wife was absolutely georgeous too. Great big smile.
I'll say this just to compare notes for dudes, and the three women on this site please don't give me grief. My experience is I have two types of male friends, both great friends to me personally. Some are cheaters and trivial with their vows. The others are like, "I'm married, I don't do that". Most have been the latter, but I'm still friends with some of the former.
I'll say this just to compare notes for dudes, and the three women on this site please don't give me grief. My experience is I have two types of male friends, both great friends to me personally. Some are cheaters and trivial with their vows. The others are like, "I'm married, I don't do that". Most have been the latter, but I'm still friends with some of the former.
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