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re: I-12 from the split to O'Neal Lane needs to be repaved badly
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:05 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:05 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I can only offer anecdotal evidence of 190 in WBR. from 415 to Poydras Bayou Road it is all concrete. It has held up well for all the traffic it gets- especially during grinding season. and its an old road.
Compare that to the rest of 190 that is asphalt. Its horrible.
The asphalt portion between Bueche Road and the LA-1 exit was "widened" around the same time and it is still okay.
If you want to see a really bad road.....try LA1 between 190 and New Roads. It was paved over in 2004/2005. It started breaking up just a few weeks after they paved it. It's a mess now.
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:08 pm to sleepytime
while they are fixing the potholes, can they fix the ramps on the overpases? Every fricking overpass I travel on seems to have a 6" drop before or after the overpass itself. You knock the shite out of your vehicle getting on/off the thing.
I swear to God they ought to fire every employee at DOTD and just start over.
I swear to God they ought to fire every employee at DOTD and just start over.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:09 pm to member12
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If you want to see a really bad road.....try LA1 between 190 and New Roads. It was paved over in 2004/2005. It started breaking up just a few weeks after they paved it. It's a mess now.
I know, I live out there.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:09 pm to Sentrius
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So many damn potholes everywhere especially the 3rd lane from the left both ways. It's really fricking bad around Millerville to Sherwood and around Airline as well.
I think the inside lane has crappier concrete. I have seen chunks the size of baseballs break off and hit cars from that section.
They need a layer of asphalt over the section between Jefferson and O'Neal Lane.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:14 pm to goofball
When I go back to BR I see the interstate problems. But surface streets are crumbling all over the country. In ATL they "fix" a "patch" within 6 months that patch begins to sink in again and from all the traffic swerving to the next lane, the next lane collapses.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:15 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I know, I live out there.
Sorry about your tires. I only go out there once or twice a month.
I've never seen pavement deteriorate so rapidly. They were patching the new pavement less than a year after they completed work. They tried sealing some of the cracks, but only for a few miles.
That is probably the worst "state road" in the region except for that section of I-110 where the sagging elevated freeway undulates between the expansion joints.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:15 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I swear to God they ought to fire every employee at DOTD and just start over.
most of that that was designed was designed by a consultant. the instability of the soil in Louisiana teamed with the lack of proper funding, low bid, and good ole boy contractors is what leads to the roads being shitty. Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:21 pm to member12
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That is probably the worst "state road" in the region except for that section of I-110 where the sagging elevated freeway undulates between the expansion joints.
travel south on 90 from Broussard to Houma and get back to me regarding "undulating expansion joints". They've got some overpasses on that stretch that will literally put a vehicle airborne.
Ramrod- what specific thing leads to the big dropoffs before/after an overpass?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:23 pm to SamuelClemens
Drove I-10 to laffy this weekend. Felt like I was driving on the moon
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:23 pm to SamuelClemens
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But surface streets are crumbling all over the country.
It seems like 15 years is ideal life cycles for asphalt arterial roads....up to 20 years for lower traffic streets.
A lot of the country can't adhere to that. Memphis could only budget 30 year cycles when I was there.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:26 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Ramrod- what specific thing leads to the big dropoffs before/after an overpass?
The section supported by the bridge bents don't sink as much as the sections supported by fill. The transition gets pretty nasty over time if they don't stabilize the ground.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:28 pm to dewster
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The section supported by the bridge bents don't sink as much as the sections supported by fill. The transition gets pretty nasty over time if they don't stabilize the ground.
thanks. at least I know what is destroying my axles now.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:28 pm to tigerinthebueche
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what specific thing leads to the big dropoffs before/after an overpass?
Settlement of the approach roadway/slabs. Sometimes due to erosion underneath.
The approaches settle but the bridge does not.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:41 pm to Sentrius
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Can someone tell me why concrete is a good idea over asphalt for the interstate?
Generally concrete lasts a little longer over active soil, but costs more upfront and is more difficult to repair. A lot of urban sections with asphalt actually uses the original concrete road bed as a base. That's probably what they will eventually do to the I-12 section mentioned in the OP.
Asphalt roads (when well maintained) are usually smoother, produces less road noise, and is easier on tires.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:50 pm to Sentrius
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Can someone tell me why concrete is a good idea over asphalt for the interstate?
Concrete can, when designed correctly to account for soil conditions, provide longer service life. I'm convinced that LA MUST increase the pavement thickness to achieve this though. I'm not sure what the thinking is (well I have an idea) but they could simply look at Tx where soil conditions are definitely no worse than here, even in East TX and they use a much thicker cross section.
Of course, when you have roads that last longer, that means less reconstruction, which means less money in the contractors pockets.
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