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re: HVAC experts: anything wrong with this unit?

Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74875 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:38 pm to
got double insulated windows and for the first time in forever my house is cold at 5pm. used to get up to 80 in the house. Now it stays 72 no matter how hot it gets outside.

Radiant barrier in attic, new bats of insulation in the walls and blown in insulation in attic floor.

Greatest upgrade ever.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11893 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:48 pm to
Napoleon,

What are your thoughts on whole house dehumidifiers?
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:50 pm to
I used to turn mine up during the day, but it seemed like it took a long time to catch up when we got home and turned it down - this summer our oldest son has in home care during the day I leave it at 74 and it cycles on and off pretty regularly - system was put in the house new in 2005. We also do average billing to help offset the summer months.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40309 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:51 pm to
If you build, get foam.

Even if you have to sell a kidney.


If you'd ever make an OT exception and fix my icemaker, I'll take you into my attic. It is dam near the same temp as the rest of the house.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22144 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:12 pm to
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new bats of insulation in the walls and blown in insulation in attic floor.

What R rating did you do in your walls and attic?
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:55 pm to
OK man, after being called a dumbass practically for what I said earlier by several in this thread, I consulted with my Dad on your situation to see exactly what he said.

He said first, this is where you're losing the excess. He said to take some water-based duct mastic and go over all of the seams and potential leak areas and plug the hole where you can feel cold air. He said your "duct is f***ed" and he would replace it if it were him. He said if not, it wont reach max efficiency as it stands currently.

To those who refuted what I said earlier, he just laughed at y'all. He said "of course you can achieve more than a 30 degree difference, but at that point it becomes refrigeration and not air conditioning. The only way that is possible is if the unit is grossly oversized relative to the cooling area within the house. If the unit fits the house, then 30 degrees should be the max differential between outside and inside air. Of course, it all depends on your envelope." (which I guess means setup)

He said a whole bunch of other technical shite that I had a hard time following but that was the gist of it.

ETA: Take that for what it is worth, OP. There are obviously several HVAC contractors in this thread so advice from them may be better.



This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 3:01 pm
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3268 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:11 pm to
I think what most fail to realize is that when you have high relative humidity that your unit has to do extra work to pull the moisture out of the air while removing the heat from the air at the same time.

And just using an oversize unit wont work either, as it will just cycle and not remove the moisture.

Most newer units in the south shuold have a dehumidifier before the evap coil.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:16 pm to
Exactly, there are so many factors that you must take into consideration, with humidity and radiant temperature being two huge ones. HVAC specs, equipment, etc vary greatly throughout all parts of the country. Louisiana (and the deep south in general) requires quite a bit of complexity in the HVAC setup to offset the drastic changes in weather from season to season.
Posted by Antoine
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2012
109 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:21 pm to
Napoleon, What company did you use for the insulation in your attic. Thanks
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40309 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

it becomes refrigeration


Damn right! That's what we want!
(Oversizing is as bad as under sizing, as you know)


FWIW, I wasn't calling you or your Dad out and in fact, I think we pretty much agree. (depends on the envelope/installation/environment)

You are the only one that replied with constructive advice for the OP and he should be thankful.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11070 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Damn right! That's what we want

Touche'
quote:

Oversizing is as bad as under sizing, as you know

Absolutely
quote:

I wasn't calling you or your Dad out and in fact, I think we pretty much agree

Oh I know, man, its all good. I just wanted to check with him and make sure what I was saying was factually correct. I typically don't post about something like this if I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Hope it helps the OP because according to the old man, his setup is in pretty bad shape.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43052 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 4:31 pm to
To answer your original question, it appears there is a secondary drain opening for your evaporator coil and yes it should be plugged since it wasn't piped to a drain.

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