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re: Huntington Ingalls agrees to sell former Avondale Shipyard
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:35 pm to Ed Osteen
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:35 pm to Ed Osteen
Nola doesn't have the setup to handle large container ships. If I'm not mistaken, there's only 4 gantry cranes in the city docks(if there's more, it's only 2). The height of the bridges above the city make container terminals pointless.
Space is probably a big factor now. That's why I think Avondale would have been a great spot(with a higher bridge). Investing in the future was wasted imo
Space is probably a big factor now. That's why I think Avondale would have been a great spot(with a higher bridge). Investing in the future was wasted imo
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:36 pm to notiger1997
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And yes, the trip up and down the river has to factor into business decision I would think
It doesn't as much as people like to think it does
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:39 pm to tankyank13
Heard that was going in the Times Pic building. Did it fall through?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:41 pm to Cosmo
Please explain the river pilot piracy part. I'm genuinely interested.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:46 pm to Tiger_Stripes
The river boat pilots get paid stupid money. You have to basically be born into it. It's almost like a modern day mob
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:10 pm to achenator
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Containers are mostly consumer goods and therefore population driven. They want to get them as close to where they are ultimately going by ship. That is still the cheapest way compared to rail and truck no matter how far upriver they have to go, The area just can't compete with places like Houston that feed all the way to Austin, San Antonio , Dallas etc.
What he said. NOLA is unattractive because of distance from the MS delta to the unloading docks and, mainly, population. Houston is naturally easier to dock and has an instant market for consumer goods.
Really no other factors involved.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:17 pm to Tiger_Stripes
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Please explain the river pilot piracy part. I'm genuinely interested.
Ships over a certain length going up the mississippi have to pick up a river pilot in pilottown and pay them a decent sum (ransom) to "navigate them" up the river.
With GPS and such this should not be necessary.
But they have a strong lobby and this isnt going away.
Its legalized piracy
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:21 pm to Cosmo
I get your hate but
Lol Dude
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With GPS and such this should not be necessary
Lol Dude
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:22 pm to Cosmo
quote:you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
With GPS and such this should not be necessary.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:55 pm to Deactived
Explain why computers cant control a boat like a car? Should be even easier
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:58 pm to dewster
I was a security guard there for bit while going to school in N.O. 
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:00 pm to Cosmo
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Explain why computers cant control a boat like a car
Every day brings new challenges on the river based on current, depth, traffic, etc. You will always need human judgement.
That's not to say that the current system is not corrupt and should not be changed.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:24 pm to el Gaucho
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Huntington Ingalls
How come rich dudes always have wussy names like this?
Those are two different people.
Huntington was Collis P. Huntington who built Newport News Shipyard (and also was a major investor in the C&O Railroad, the Central Pacific Railroad, and the Southern Pacific Railroad).
Ingalls was Robert Ingersoll Ingalls Sr. who built the Ingalls Shipyard.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:55 pm to notiger1997
Here's a little fun history of the Pilots........
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Before pilot associations and fee commissions there were unregulated, ruthless pilots monitoring the river in hopes of catching the first sight of an incoming ship. Aggressive pilots often strayed far out to sea in order to beat their competitors. Likewise, many ships had to wait unlimited hours in the dangerous waters for a pilot to just happen by. On many occasions two pilots would reach the ship at the same time and race to be the first to get on board, each scrambling up opposite sides of the boat. In the end the toughest and fastest won, not the most knowledgeable and skilled. In New Orleans, shrewd businessmen with no inclination toward piloting would hire any sailor, buccaneer, or drifter to work the ships and then keep the fees for themselves.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:35 pm to Cosmo
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Explain why computers cant control a boat like a car? Should be even easier
A car would be easier to control and we see how far we are in automated auto transportation.
You want to have unmanned 900 foot ships going up and down one of the most dangerous rivers in the world based off of GPS. Lol
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:50 pm to Cosmo
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With GPS and such this should not be necessary.
You are clueless
It's a massive river with constantly changing currents, sand bars, trees, and other hidden obstacles that a computer can't just learn. Knowledge of the river and how to run it is why it's such a family business. You can't just bring someone in and throw them in a captains chair, much less throw a ship carrying chemicals or oil products on cruise control
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:01 pm to achenator
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you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
I saw with my own eyes a river boat pilot who was on 'vacation' in Baton Rouge throw out an ounce of blow on a counter top and told the party to 'dig in'. Then hands a guy $1200 cash to go get another.
I was impressed. So impressed I left the party after an appetizer and walked to Ivars. frickkkkk that noise. I'm just a baby to them fricking crazy fricks.
Tldr they are rich and crazy.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:04 pm to Ed Osteen
Its opened up considerably in the last 10yrs or so. It's a lot easier to get in now but is still hard overall.
And the dumb arse with the gps
And the dumb arse with the gps
Posted on 8/9/17 at 10:05 pm to Deactived
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You want to have unmanned 900 foot ships going up and down one of the most dangerous rivers in the world based off of GPS. Lol
Sooooo modern airplanes with 200 people on board can land themselves in fog but you're saying a big arse ship cant trust a computer? Lunacy.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:46 pm to Cosmo
I see. Well, nepotism is the way the world works.
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