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re: How would the lockdown and restrictions have been received right after WW2?
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:14 am to Soup Sammich
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:14 am to Soup Sammich
They wouldn't have needed politicians to tell them to stay home and they wouldn't have whined about not getting their nails done...
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:54 am to Soup Sammich
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I apologize if it was a stupid question.
No need to apologize. It was a stupid question though. It is a stupid thread entirely. The fact that you even thought this thread was a good idea, in your head, is concerning.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:28 am to Soup Sammich
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Soup Sammich
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Wow great thread. Really makes you think.
Oof you responded to the same post twice with different sentiments? That Caple guy really got in ur head.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:40 am to Soup Sammich
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It’s a different time now but I couldn’t see that generation just accepting some of the restrictions placed and some of their rights taken from them like some places have been doing
What?
You do realize that same generation/time had to deal with severe rations where pretty many of the things you were allowed to buy were staples as provided in a government provided book.
Most of the things not on that list were either diverted to war production or needed things that were themselves scarce because they went to war production.
You weren’t allowed to sell or trade the coupons either.
It also spawned Wickard v. Filburn, one of the most insidious increases of the Commerce clause and associated growth of Fed power. Short version: wheat growth was heavily regulated. Farmer grew it solely to feed livestock. Gov refused to accept that the fact that he didn’t sell it excepted him from regulation, and in fact that he wasn’t purchasing on the market caused ripple effects on interstate commerce thus putting his actions at home under federal jurisdiction.
So I don’t know why you just assume they would automatically reject such a big government intrusion in their day to day life. Also, most of the older generation would have remembered the 1918 pandemic, so justified or not, they would be more inclined to step in line compared to now.
This appeal to “back in the good ole days America wouldn’t have stood for this!” implication is absurd.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 8:27 am
Posted on 5/6/20 at 8:18 am to Volvagia
Wicked v. Filburn was just as bad as the Patriot Act,maybe worse, in terms of restrictions on individual freedom.
PBS's had a series out recently on the Constitution and had a segment on Wickard v Filburn and its subsequent abuses. Here is a small bit of that segment, I highly recommend the rest of the series:
A More or Less Perfect Union: Interstate Commerce Clause
PBS's had a series out recently on the Constitution and had a segment on Wickard v Filburn and its subsequent abuses. Here is a small bit of that segment, I highly recommend the rest of the series:
A More or Less Perfect Union: Interstate Commerce Clause
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:20 pm to Soup Sammich
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That why I’m asking. I should study that war more because it is fascinating from my small amount of knowledge.
If you find that fascinating take a look at WWI. Start about a decade before ol' Franz had a really shitty day in Sarajevo.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:29 pm to The Spleen
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The American public was asked to make all kinds of sacrifices during WW2, and I’ve never read or heard about any complaining over it. I’d imagine the soldiers returning home were just ecstatic to be home and understood sacrifices needed to be made to win the war.
That's because they had a totally different situation. The country could have been captured by a foreign enemy or enemies, people were more patriotic then, and there wasn't an agenda driven media running things.
My 99 year old dad is a WW2 veteran and he thinks all this is ridiculous, so there's that.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 9:32 pm
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