re: how should a company compensate an hourly employee for out of state training

When I get sent somewhere I pay for everything up front. I'm paid the usual rate while I am working.

When I get back I file an expense report detailing identifiable expenses (like plane tickets, taxi, car, hotel, etc.) and a per-diem amount that covers meals and entertainmen. Every employer has a per diem but it's enough unless I splurge on hookers and blow.

2-3 weeks later I get reimbursed.

If your guy is living paycheck to paycheck this may not work and an advance might be needed, that isn't terribly uncommon in the world. He just gets paid back the difference.

Pay wages for the time he is at training.
Driving to/from hotel is considered normal commute time. Travelling outside of business hours should be paid his standard/ot wages.
Daily per diem for meals//incidentals.
10 bucks for breakfast
17 for lunch
25 for dinner
10 bucks for incidentals/tips, etc.

I am going through a similar thing in the near future.

Company will pay 8 hours per day at event, plus time spent traveling, plus all expenses paid up front by them.

Its a typically a huge growth opportunity, a tangible sign that that company is investing in you, and basically a working vacation.

Seems kinda ungrateful to bitch for more just because he is out of town.

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I've spent most of my life "out of town" on behalf of my company,

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It does seem to get old after a while. How much time before you go wheels down for the last time?

What the frick kind of company makes their employee, who they are sending off for training, pay for his own hotel room and flight. Why the frick didn't your company pre pay those items and give him a small per diem for food?. If I was him, I'd complete the training and immediately start looking for a position at another company.

That looks sensible.

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Dude, you just simply don't have an understanding of very simple things at play here.

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Brah, I clearly do. Getting better at your job is an expectation last I checked. IF they pay for the class and all the travel associated with it, what do you really have to complain about?

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If your employer wanted you to go get a MBA, which they pay for, you think you'll be fine continuing with your pre-MBA salary after completing the program? It's an extreme example, but you don't seem to be big on nuance.

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What a totally relevant and apt comparison to a week long training class. I should probably spend more time on it, put I'll pass.

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You can say training and further education is part of any job all you want, but so are corresponding reevaluations of compensation depending on continued advancement of skills (after the initial learning curve has been completed of course).

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Well I guess a lot of people in my industry are due a shitload of raises for all the training we go to every year. I'll let my supervisor know they've been doing things so very incorrectly.

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Fly safe

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thanks, I've really had a blessed career, hired at the beginning of a huge boom, was pretty young, made Captain early, always have pretty much had my first pick at everything, and it looks like I'll be going out during an upturn, I was thinking about leaving early a few years ago but now that the company is expanding/buying new planes, they take at least two of my trips every month for IOEs for new guys, so I get paid to stay home a lot, plus, I really do love the job

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f he normally works 8 to 5 M-F and travels on Sunday to the training from 2 to 9 p.m., only the travel time from 2 to 5 would have to be compensable.

This is for instructive purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

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This is so dumb if this is how the law actually works.