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Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:34 am to TheIndulger
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The people who go to MIT are just a wee bit brighter than your average state school student.
This. And they are in general driven to excel.
There is a vast difference between the upper echelon research institutions who focus on advancing the state of human knowledge and those institutions that just try to fill out the workforce.
Both institutions are needed, but lets not confuse the two.
If you want to win a Nobel prize in science or engineering, go to MIT. If you want to work for Exxon, go to LSU.
If you want to work IN RESEARCH, for Exxon, got to MIT.
To say one is easier or harder is just a fallacious argument. They have different missions.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:35 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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No, you have provided no proof of experience, personal or second-hand, with both sides of the equation.
Except I did.
quote:
Therefore, I rank the opinions as
1. Him
2. Me (my friends)
3. you
Well, yours should be off the list since it's wrong.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:36 am to LNCHBOX
good post 
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:36 am to TeddyPadillac
Another well thought out and intelligent response. You guys are on a roll.
You know what he meant dude. It was along the lines of this argument. LINK
You know what he meant dude. It was along the lines of this argument. LINK
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:37 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:There is grade inflation, yes. However, I think that the entire student experience at Columbia is more challenging since there are requirements beyond the engineering course load (core curriculum).
You obviously are more qualified than anyone else in this thread on the subject. Your opinion has made me raise an eyebrow on what my friends with those similar experiences have told me.
I will say that the best students at LSU are on par with the best at Columbia. The worst are about the same as well. The big chunk in the middle is a lot better at Columbia than LSU. So, grades are a little bit higher because the weeding out was done before they started college.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:38 am to Spirit of Dunson
Seems reasonable.
Let me ask you this.
Did you feel you had more faculty support at Columbia than at LSU? Or, perhaps individual attention?
Let me ask you this.
Did you feel you had more faculty support at Columbia than at LSU? Or, perhaps individual attention?
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:39 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:42 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:I taught at Columbia. So the faculty were AWESOME!
Let me ask you this.
Did you feel you had more faculty support at Columbia than at LSU? Or, perhaps individual attention?
Seriously, I would say that LSU depended on TA's more. As an undergrad, I got a lot of faculty support in chemical engineering since I sought it out. They weren't forthcoming.
At Columbia, they relied on TA's equally. However, the classes were a lot smaller, so the faculty were much more accessible.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:43 am to 911Moto
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You don't understand how the internet works, do you?
Like technically (i.e. servers and network connections)? Are we talking about the internet or tigerdroppings or the OT? I need more specificity.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:44 am to 911Moto
Not the best in the area, certainly not the worst.
Internships during his stay at LSU and not having a terrible personality are much more important for getting a good job in this region than schooling.
Internships during his stay at LSU and not having a terrible personality are much more important for getting a good job in this region than schooling.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:45 am to Spirit of Dunson
makes complete sense. the support system is there. But, you are correct, you really have to seek it out.
So, by that logic, if one were smart enough to grasp the material, but lacked a certain amount of motivation then Columbia would be more conducive to his/her grasp of the material than say LSU.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:46 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:if you lack a certain amount of motivation, you aren't in Columbia to begin with.
if one were smart enough to grasp the material, but lacked a certain amount of motivation then Columbia would be more conducive
I know that sounds glib, but this is why these conversations are so tough. It is asking for results of a hypothetical that has a false premise.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:49 am to Spirit of Dunson
I can get on board with that.
what about a learning disorder? Dyslexia, or ADD? They don't mean you are dumb, just unable to focus/self-motivate(again I know someone who went through this at LSU and Stanford)
What if you were motivated to get in, then the shock of college changed your work ethic.
what about a learning disorder? Dyslexia, or ADD? They don't mean you are dumb, just unable to focus/self-motivate(again I know someone who went through this at LSU and Stanford)
What if you were motivated to get in, then the shock of college changed your work ethic.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:51 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
How many "UL-L-Breaux Bridge engineering program is better" posts have there been?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:53 am to Drew Orleans
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Solid contribution to this thread, yellow... Solid.
hey keep it up, you guys are entertaining the shite out of me here
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:53 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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what about a learning disorder? Dyslexia, or ADD?
quote:that happens at all kinds of colleges.
What if you were motivated to get in, then the shock of college changed your work ethic.
Would love to continue, but gotta run!
In summary - You get out of your education what you put into it. I busted my arse at LSU and got a great education. However, the school could definitely open some doors for you (having a columbia degree gets more return calls than an LSU degree). And of course there are always exceptions (we all know a guy dumb as bricks that went to harvard... and an LSU grad that figured out cold fusion).
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:53 am to Count Chocula
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How many "UL-L-Breaux Bridge engineering program is better" posts have there been?
We did get a LSU>>>>>>>>>>>MIT
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:54 am to Spirit of Dunson
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if you lack a certain amount of motivation, you aren't in Columbia to begin with
I just read that 76% of students at Columbia scored 32 or higher on the ACT. I'd guess that the average student at Columbia would be in the top 5% at LSU.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:54 am to yellowfin
Not what was meant by that post.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:55 am to yellowfin
Apparently you haven't been keeping up as well as you should. It's ok.
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