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re: How do you handle paternity leave in performance rankings
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:59 am to Indefatigable
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:59 am to Indefatigable
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Correct. And we've been doing the opposite for decades, then wonder why birth rates are where they are in the middle and upper-middle class
Contraceptives.
The workers have more money to buy products to prevent pregnancy so it doesnt interfere with work.
Work isnt the reason birth rates are going down so please spare us.
Womens ideology. EOS
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 11:01 am
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:59 am to Indefatigable
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Correct. And we've been doing the opposite for decades, then wonder why birth rates are where they are in the middle and upper-middle class
I've been beating this drum for years, even before I had kids of my own. If you make it more difficult for productive people to have kids, the only people having kids will be the unproductive dregs. People who wake up at 11am and fight in Walmart don't need parental leave.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:00 am to jizzle6609
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I think whoever does that is simply taking advantage of a situation and good for them. I just dont choose to.
Congrats on not taking advantage of your full compensation. What other money do you not take?
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:01 am to Chef Curry
quote:This doesn't follow. You can be against 3 months of paternity leave and still be a family first person.
You and the others in here railing against this are the same types who put work over family
quote:Paternity leave has only become more common the last 20 years.
and wonder why kids are so misguided these days.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:01 am to Trevaylin
Jesus. It’s threads like these that think younger generations have the right idea when they don’t give 2 shits about company loyalty when there are so many mangers out there that don’t reciprocate.
How do you even recruit people to your company? “Hey come join us. We offer X benefits, and X time off, but don’t you dare use them because we’ll ding your performance reviews for using the benefits we offered. Screw your family and your heart attacks, you work for us dammit. Don’t be such a pussy.”
How do you even recruit people to your company? “Hey come join us. We offer X benefits, and X time off, but don’t you dare use them because we’ll ding your performance reviews for using the benefits we offered. Screw your family and your heart attacks, you work for us dammit. Don’t be such a pussy.”
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:01 am to Trevaylin
I can’t imagine working in an environment where a person can take 3 solid months off and not have it impact their pay or at least their variable pay portion.
I hire people who want to chase bonuses and will chew their arm off to max them out.
I hire people who want to chase bonuses and will chew their arm off to max them out.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:01 am to jizzle6609
Some people have more than one kid
There’s probably a bit more to than sitting around with the wife if it’s your third kid under like 7 years old
There’s probably a bit more to than sitting around with the wife if it’s your third kid under like 7 years old
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:01 am to theGarnetWay
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How do you even recruit people to your company? “Hey come join us. We offer X benefits, and X time off, but don’t you dare use them because we’ll ding your performance reviews for using the benefits we offered.”
It's almost as bad as the "unlimited" PTO scam
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:01 am to LNCHBOX
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Congrats on not taking advantage of your full compensation. What other money do you not take?
Anything thats not mine.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:02 am to Trevaylin
This is a great question. It is something that came up recently here.
We have an employee who is on her fourth child in her fourth year of employment,
She takes off the 90 days for maternity leave, but gets pregnant within the first month or two, and 9 months later she’s doing her maternity leave once again….
We have an employee who is on her fourth child in her fourth year of employment,
She takes off the 90 days for maternity leave, but gets pregnant within the first month or two, and 9 months later she’s doing her maternity leave once again….
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:03 am to Ingeniero
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I've been beating this drum for years, even before I had kids of my own. If you make it more difficult for productive people to have kids, the only people having kids will be the unproductive dregs. People who wake up at 11am and fight in Walmart don't need parental leave.
Every somewhat "successful" middle class couple I know has had just one child.
I know a few people who aren't middle class or what I would call "successful". They all have had at least 3 kids.
And by "successful", I mean just really run-of-the-mill middle class that don't live paycheck to paycheck..
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 11:04 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:03 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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This is a great question. It is something that came up recently here.
We have an employee who is on her fourth child in her fourth year of employment,
She takes off the 90 days for maternity leave, but gets pregnant within the first month or two, and 9 months later she’s doing her maternity leave once again….
She must be an outstanding employee if your company is actually bothered by this and hasn't found any legit reason to terminate her employment in all that time.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:06 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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How do you handle paternity leave in performance rankings
HoustonGumbeauxGuy
This is a great question. It is something that came up recently here.
We have an employee who is on her fourth child in her fourth year of employment,
She takes off the 90 days for maternity leave, but gets pregnant within the first month or two, and 9 months later she’s doing her maternity leave once again….
Yall getting played but good on her for being a fertile Myrtle.
Its happened to eveyrone. In 2012 we hired a chick and within the first week or two we found out she was pregnant. This was a more strategic role with more required experience, so it was a bit frustrating. We survived.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:06 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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This is a great question. It is something that came up recently here.
We have an employee who is on her fourth child in her fourth year of employment,
She takes off the 90 days for maternity leave, but gets pregnant within the first month or two, and 9 months later she’s doing her maternity leave once again….
cuts both ways. My old boss used to joke about encouraging employees to buy boats cause there was no more motivated employee than one in a financial hole
a parent with 4 kids isn't going to frick up their income or else they'll be on the street
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:08 am to LNCHBOX
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She must be an outstanding employee if your company is actually bothered by this and hasn't found any legit reason to terminate her employment in all that time.
Couldn't they be trying to avoid a wrongful termination lawsuit?
I imagine employers walk on eggshells these days.
We had an employee that "borrowed" about $20k in company media equipment and cameras to use for their personal weekend wedding photography business....
When she was charged and terminated, she cried for racism because she's Asian. This dumb bitch stole $20k in equipment and still played the victim. A tree limb upside her head would've been good.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:08 am to jizzle6609
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Yall getting played but good
How are they getting played good? I highly doubt she's being paid for all that leave. She still needs to pay her portion of her insurance to keep it. Besides having a name on the payroll, what is the real negative effect here? (and again, if her employment is negative, how have they not gotten rid of her yet?
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:09 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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We have an employee who is on her fourth child in her fourth year of employment, She takes off the 90 days for maternity leave, but gets pregnant within the first month or two, and 9 months later she’s doing her maternity leave once again….
That’s awesome. We need more productive people pumping out kids!
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:11 am to LNCHBOX
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How are they getting played good? I highly doubt she's being paid for all that leave.
Yeah, unless you have enough leave time, it should become leave without pay.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:12 am to i am dan
quote:I wouldn’t say every, but it’s pretty close ime
Every somewhat "successful" middle class couple I know has had just one child.
Looking at good career having, educated people I know well (cousins, family friends, hs friends, college friends, etc.) ages 25-35, most have just one kid or maybe two
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:12 am to i am dan
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Every somewhat "successful" middle class couple I know has had just one child.
Wait what?
I live in one of the most expensive zip codes in my state and most of the families at my kids’ school have an absolute minimum of 2 kids. I’m bang average at 3 kids it seems.
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