- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: How do you feel about spanking children?
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:29 pm to Festus
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:29 pm to Festus
quote:
And you edit in a study on "frequent spanking", which is not at all what's being discussed, for back up?
Wow.
I've linked several studies and opinions. Here's one from the APA. I think those folks know a little what they're talking about when it comes to behavior.
LINK
Most parents who spank do so because it works. Short term. You can find all kind of surveys where most spank, most don't spank, etc.
Looks to me there's a valid argument against it.
In the end if you are a good parent, and spank a little you probably aren't hurting your kid. There are better ways of raising a kid IMO, but to each his/her own. Whack away, it's your kid, not mine.
2
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:29 pm to WDE24
quote:
Not really since the people you are responding to have clarified the limitations where spanking is believed to be a useful tool for parents.
I was NOT responding to him
I was responding to YOU because of your comparison to the player-coach relationship. Seriously, I can't do this bullshite all night. This is bizarre.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Looks to me there's a valid argument against it.
Well, at least we're making progress from your initial statement below:
quote:
I can't remember reading a study that says spanking is positive. Every one suggests problems from trust, language and even cognitive development come from spankings.
(assuming you will at least acknowledge now that there are studies out there that suggest otherwise.
)
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:33 pm to inadaze
quote:Again, there was no such comparison. The comparison was to acceptable forms of physical discipline. I'm not sure how you don't get this.
your comparison to the player-coach relationship.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:34 pm to Festus
quote:
(assuming you will at least acknowledge now that there are studies out there that suggest otherwise. )
I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find a study that shows eating dog shite is good for you...
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Exactly.
I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find a study that shows eating dog shite is good for you...
Like the Doc earlier, studies that support the position you already believe are valid and unbiased, studies that show otherwise are biased and unreliable despite the fact that you haven't investigated the studies, their methodologies or the expertise of the persons conducting them.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:40 pm to WDE24
quote:
Again, there was no such comparison. The comparison was to acceptable forms of physical discipline. I'm not sure how you don't get this.
You are degenerating fast.
quote:
Somewhat similar to a coach making players run as discipline.
Those were your words on page 10. That's why I linked the article, which dealt with addressing the root cause of problems in a player-coach relationship instead of administering a traditional form of discipline. Did you think I was linking the article to SUPPORT your from of discipline?
As we've clearly established, I disagree with you. That's why I linked the article. You would have to read the article to understand what I'm talking about.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:40 pm to WDE24
quote:\
Like the Doc earlier, studies that support the position you already believe are valid and unbiased, studies that show otherwise are biased and unreliable despite the fact that you haven't investigated the studies, their methodologies or the expertise of the persons conducting them.
I'm pretty confident. I've seen enough evidence to convince me that there's a risk of long term damage in spankings, and their effectiveness is short term.
We stopped spanking with our first child and used other methods with our second. We had extraordinary results with the second, so it can be done.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:46 pm to inadaze
I don't believe in it and, in my opinion, it's a form of bullying. I got my share of whoppin's as a kid. shite like that took place a lot in the 50s and 60s. I have never raised a hand to my child. Punishments for him were taking away toys and things. He turned out just fine.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:47 pm to IonaTiger
quote:
shite like that took place a lot in the 50s and 60s. I have never raised a hand to my child.
We got the hell beat out of us on occasion. My mom apologized when I was an adult. She said it was how kids were raised in those days and they didn't really know any better. My dad would leave welts on my legs.
I'll never do that to a kid. Never.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
We got the hell beat out of us on occasion. My mom apologized when I was an adult. She said it was how kids were raised in those days and they didn't really know any better. My dad would leave welts on my legs.
I'll never do that to a kid. Never.
Dear God, I hope not. It would take a psychopath to believe that is good parenting.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:54 pm to Festus
quote:
Dear God, I hope not. It would take a psychopath to believe that is good parenting.
You probably don't believe me, but people will say the same about any corporal punishment in 20-30 years.
Hurting a kid is a huge rusk to achieve short term, positive outcomes.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
We got the hell beat out of us on occasion. My mom apologized when I was an adult. She said it was how kids were raised in those days and they didn't really know any better. My dad would leave welts on my legs.
Yeah, my dad got after me very aggressively. We eventually had some all-out brawls. And I'm sure that's the main reason I'm averse to spanking. To find some positive in it, I think it did make me tougher.
FWIW, I don't mean for my position to be overly condemnatory toward parents that have spanked their kids, or do it on occasion. I just disagree with it.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
As I have stated repeatedly in this thread, lots of spanking is abusive, lazy, low level parenting. However, done in a controlled and loving manner, it can be a useful tool in the parenting tool belt.
I personally don't like to do it and rarely implement it, but that doesn't invalidate spanking in all forms and circumstances.
I have one child where occasional spanking has been useful. I have another child with an almost completely opposite natural disposition to my oldest that I am not sure I will ever feel like spanking is needed or appropriate.
I personally don't like to do it and rarely implement it, but that doesn't invalidate spanking in all forms and circumstances.
I have one child where occasional spanking has been useful. I have another child with an almost completely opposite natural disposition to my oldest that I am not sure I will ever feel like spanking is needed or appropriate.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
You probably don't believe me, but people will say the same about any corporal punishment in 20-30 years.
I believe you. They're saying it now.
quote:
Hurting a kid is a huge rusk to achieve short term, positive outcomes.
Does this include hurting them emotionally or psychologically as well?
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:59 pm to inadaze
quote:No doubt that has a lot to do with it, but IMO that doesn't invalidate your opinions on the subject. We are all influenced more than we often admit by our own experiences. I do think your experience with your dad versus mine has caused some of the misunderstanding in this thread as we are often using the same terminology to refer to some pretty drastically different circumstances.
Yeah, my dad got after me very aggressively. We eventually had some all-out brawls. And I'm sure that's the main reason I'm averse to spanking.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:00 pm to Festus
quote:
Does this include hurting them emotionally or psychologically as well?
I think it definitely does.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:00 pm to Festus
quote:
Does this include hurting them emotionally or psychologically as well?
Yes. You can alter behavior without damaging a child.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Yes. You can alter behavior without damaging a child.
Who said anything about damaging? You said hurting.
Page 29 of 30
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News