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Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:47 pm to inadaze
You didn't specify that you weren't including young children in your Pete Carroll method
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:47 pm to WDE24
I can't remember reading a study that says spanking is positive. Every one suggests problems from trust, language and even cognitive development come from spankings. It does end bad behavior but becomes much less effective the more it's used.
There's a hell of a lot of evidence out there that suggests spanking is just poor parenting practice. We did it initially with our first child but quickly stopped when we found out how negative it really was.
There's a hell of a lot of evidence out there that suggests spanking is just poor parenting practice. We did it initially with our first child but quickly stopped when we found out how negative it really was.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:48 pm to inadaze
quote:No i'm not. I'm explaining why you think a toddler can always be reasoned with as long as the parent creates an environment conducive to love and respect.
You are invalidating what I say on the basis of personal experience.
It is without a doubt possible to raise a child without spanking them. That has absolutely nothing to do with wether all forms of spanking are bad methods to use in child rearing.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:49 pm to Festus
All I know is, I'm thankful for every spanking I ever got!
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Haven't read any of this thread but I am 99% sure there are at least 10 pussification of America's in here.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:And I have quoted evidence showing otherwise and showing why much of those studies, which define spanking so broadly to include physical abuse, are not reliable.
There's a hell of a lot of evidence out there that suggests spanking is just poor parenting practice.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I can't remember reading a study that says spanking is positive. Every one suggests problems from trust, language and even cognitive development come from spankings. It does end bad behavior but becomes much less effective the more it's used.
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Conclusion
In a positive family setting, spanking has been found to be a positive predictor of outcome. Tennant even found that the childhood antecedents that were most associated with non-use of illegal drugs by young men were being spanked as a child, attending church and having a “happy” parental marriage.[vi]
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:50 pm to WDE24
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no it isn't, but yes this is silly.
You're wrong. Read the posts. It's irrefutable. I'll explain it again if you really want me to, but this is just becoming tediously uncomfortable.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:51 pm to inadaze
I read it. Read his post that you quoted. Quote it in full and quit being intentionally obtuse.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:54 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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You didn't specify that you weren't including young children in your Pete Carroll method
Addressing a root problem including very young children is more about addressing parental problems.
Root problems don't only exist for children.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:56 pm to inadaze
You haven't explained anything in this entire thread.
You've put some words together in the form of sentences, expressed some platitudes, made several unprovoked personal attacks, attempted some feeble arguments, emphasized your ignorance and stubbornness, and ignored valid statements from at least a dozen posters.
But you've explained nothing
You've put some words together in the form of sentences, expressed some platitudes, made several unprovoked personal attacks, attempted some feeble arguments, emphasized your ignorance and stubbornness, and ignored valid statements from at least a dozen posters.
But you've explained nothing
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:56 pm to inadaze
quote:But the spankings we have been discussing only exist for young children.
Root problems don't only exist for children.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:57 pm to Festus
Your link is a pro spanking website... 
I'll go with non biased studies.
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It's poor parenting. Fix the problem immediately and risk worse issues later. This is why we stopped, and it's fairly irrefutable. I'm surprised people still do this.
I'll go with non biased studies.
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A multiyear study shows spanking kids makes them more aggressive later on
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(CBS News) Disciplining children with physical punishment such as spanking, shoving or slapping may raise their risk for developing mental health problems when they get older, new research suggests.
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The bottom line? While spanking may seem like a quick fix for an immediate problem, this study suggests that it can cause issues later on that are much more difficult to tackle.
It's poor parenting. Fix the problem immediately and risk worse issues later. This is why we stopped, and it's fairly irrefutable. I'm surprised people still do this.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:58 pm to WDE24
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No i'm not. I'm explaining why you think a toddler can always be reasoned with as long as the parent creates an environment conducive to love and respect.
Please don't attribute thoughts to me that are false. I never said anything about reasoning with a toddler.
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It is without a doubt possible to raise a child without spanking them. That has absolutely nothing to do with wether all forms of spanking are bad methods to use in child rearing.
Again, I never said all forms of spanking were bad methods. In fact, I acknowledged that the mild form of it that you are espousing probably works for many people, but that doesn't mean there aren't better options.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:did the website conduct the study that it was quoting?
Your link is a pro spanking website.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:00 pm to inadaze
quote:Doesn't mean in some situations there are not.
Again, I never said all forms of spanking were bad methods. In fact, I acknowledged that the mild form of it that you are espousing probably works for many people, but that doesn't mean there aren't better options.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:02 pm to WDE24
quote:
Your link is a pro spanking website.
did the website conduct the study that it was quoting?
I'm sure you can pay someone, somewhere some money and come out with an outcome you're looking for.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:What makes those non biased and the other biased?
I'll go with non biased studies.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Your link is a pro spanking website...
No it's not. But I figured you would discredit it to favor your argument.
And it's interesting how you think your links are any less biased. But typical of your ilk.
Roger said he never read ANY studies in support. I provided him one. There are more as well. I didn't direct it to you because I believe you are bias and not interested in the truth, only "being right". It's a waste of time to discuss anything of value with people like you. But Roger seemed to be sincere and open. Hence, the direction of my post towards him.
I addressed your fear anecdote and you ignored it.
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