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re: How do people that believe in Noah's Ark explain race/ethnicity?

Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:04 pm to
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Human’s aren’t capable of evolving post noah’s Arc?




Humans are still evolving. Evolution doesn't just stop.

It would presumably take a lot longer than a few thousand years to develop the races/ethnic groups we see now than the time scale one would expect post-Ark.

We are talking tens of thousands of years of isolation and environmental factors helping to change things.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Evolving from a chimp or whatever doesn't make sense either because there aren't any half and halves, and there are still a variety of monkeys. There are again, only theories to suggest why this doesn't occur today.



Half and halves? What?

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There also aren't a lot of skeletons or fossils like there are dinosaur fossils to support a transition from ape to man. What we have are skeletons with unverifiable theories.


There are many, actually.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:06 pm to
I believe in the bible, to the best of man's ability to interpret and translate it without bias and previous doctrine getting in the way. That is to say, I believe it is the word of God, but not every syllable, comma, word, or even phrase is necessarily what God would actually have us understand it to be. The perfection of every letter of the bible as exactly what was handed down by God himself, is an exercise in the power, tyranny, and hubris of the Catholic Church. JMO.

To the question. I don't know of any Christians like myself who don't believe that environment and natural selection doesn't play a part in changing both man and animal over time. What I don't believe is that you can take any example animal, add enough time, and come out with a totally unrelated animal.

I think if you took one family and split it down the middle, sent one to live in the desert, and one to live in the forest, it wouldn't take that many generations before you could see quite different people. But they would still be men, and man will produce men for eternity. Sure in 100 million years they may be very different men, but they will still be men. Just as cats have always produced cats, dogs produce dogs, swine produce swine, and rodents produce rodents.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115737 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:10 pm to
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I think if you took one family and split it down the middle, sent one to live in the desert, and one to live in the forest, it wouldn't take that many generations before you could see quite different people. But they would still be men, and man will produce men for eternity. Sure in 100 million years they may be very different men, but they will still be men. Just as cats have always produced cats, dogs produce dogs, swine produce swine, and rodents produce rodents.


Thanks. Question.

Is your understanding of evolution that two animals had sex and another animal came out?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Thanks. Question.

Is your understanding of evolution that two animals had sex and another animal came out?


No, and if I can see where this is going, the question itself is an insult. Pardon me for assuming. Were you looking for honest answers to an honest question, or just fishing for Christians to insult? If it's the latter, I'll see my way out of the conversation.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5312 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Were you looking for honest answers to an honest question, or just fishing for Christians to insult?


The answer to your question seems more apparent now.

Funny how atheists are commonly as ignorant as they claim Christians are.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115737 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:46 pm to
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No, and if I can see where this is going, the question itself is an insult. Pardon me for assuming. Were you looking for honest answers to an honest question, or just fishing for Christians to insult? If it's the latter, I'll see my way out of the conversation.




No it was a real question. The way you worded it makes it seems like that is your thought process. You said, a cat cannot come from a dog...well, yeah, that is true. It wasn't intended to be insulting.

The only other explanation is not understanding how speciation works.

and Christian or Atheist has nothing to do with anything. Most Christians do not believe in the literal words of the old testament.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115737 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:47 pm to
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Funny how atheists are commonly as ignorant as they claim Christians are.


Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 3:00 pm to
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The only other explanation is not understanding how speciation works.


No, God creating the earth, and everything living in it and on it works just fine too. Environmental pressures and isolation certainly plays into creating other species, but how far down the speciation line do you have to go before a cat is no longer a feline, and when has anything of the kind ever been proven to have happened?
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