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re: How do Creationists reconcile discoveries that date back hundreds of millions of years

Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:39 am to
No one believes that.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:40 am to
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You believe this fish



Turned into this


No, I don't. You think that's what I believe cause you still don't understand evolution.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123605 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:40 am to
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Show the me the observable evidence for this?


Are you stating that you do not believe domesticated dogs evolved from Wolves?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7756 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:41 am to
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CoyoteSong


strawman much literally no one is saying what you are arguing against. You made it up you have yet to provide any proof of anyone claiming anything you are saying
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:50 am to
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An aquatic ancestor of primates isn't by definition a fish.


Then what are they? Are you saying there were land based animals before there were fish in your evolution world view?
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4272 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:51 am to
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Well for one the fella who invented carbon 14 dating said it was only reliable up to 6k years of dating


It's reliable up to 50k years and even if it wasn't there are multiple different radiometric dating methods which have longer timelines besides C-14.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:51 am to
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Are you stating that you do not believe domesticated dogs evolved from Wolves?


I am asking for observable evidence which is equal to the scientific method.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:00 am to
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Then what are they? Are you saying there were land based animals before there were fish in your evolution world view?


It's not a worldview. There are also extant aquatic mammals, as well as extant land mammals that spend plenty of time in water. You are overly concerned with the classification of things and oddly enough, not their origin.

The evidence suggests that the shared common ancestor operated in an environment rich both in water and sodium, but low in potassium. Obviously none of that would be meaningful if I explained it though.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:03 am to
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Show the me the observable evidence for this?


Are you retarded?

Do you really think evolution is this singular process where magically you can set a camera on a bird and tomorrow it becomes a lizard?

Lets play an educational game, with evidence you can find, what got us from this:





to these?





Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11510 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:08 am to
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Ya can't quote Christ dummy. He didn't write anything
He might have. We don't know.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:09 am to
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I am asking for observable evidence which is equal to the scientific method.



Would morphological, genetic, phenotypic suffice for you, or is that not observable? I think you have a stilted notion of both the scientific method and of observable evidence.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11510 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:10 am to
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I am asking for observable evidence which is equal to the scientific method.
Even asking this makes no sense.

Evidence cannot equal a method.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:15 am to
Imagine teleporting a brand new car to the year 500 BC. You show the locals how it drives, play a few cds for them, show the AC/heater, massage seats etc….

This is how the people respond about the car.

Evolution people: This car evolved from a single piece of dirt billions and billions of years ago. It kept evolving to it’s present car state as we see it here in 500 BC.

Creationists: yeah guys, intelligent design made the car. Not sure who, what, or when they made it but the car definitely had a creator.

Evolution people: You idiot!!! This car evolved from dirt!!! We are the enlighten ones. Get out of here with your sky fairy talk.

Creationist: walks away smiling and shaking his head.


Fast forward to 2022. This is now.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 11:27 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:19 am to
That might be one of the stupidest illustrations of a debate I've ever seen on any internet forum. My god.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:22 am to

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I am asking for observable evidence


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Even asking this makes no sense.


Sounds like you believe what you are told to believe.

I like to think for myself.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
58737 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:23 am to
A car is not a living organism.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:24 am to
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Walks away smiling
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36489 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:24 am to
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Imagine teleporting a brand new car to the year 500 BC. You show the locals how it drives, play a few cds for them, show the AC/heater, massage seats etc….
This is how the people respond about the car.
Evolution people: This car evolved from a single piece of dirt billions and billions of years ago. It kept evolving to it’s present car state as we see it here in 500 BC.
Creationists: yeah guys, intelligent design made the car.
Evolution people: You idiot!!! This car evolved from dirt!!! We are the enlighten ones. Get out of here with your sky fairy talk.
Creationist: walks away smiling and shaking his head.


Holy. fricking. shite. My only regret is this thread is anchored so the masses can’t see how fricking stupid this is
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:28 am to
Your DNA is way more complex than a car. Your DNA stretches from the ground on the earth and goes to the sun and back three times.


Do you even like science?


This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 11:31 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:32 am to
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Sounds like you believe what you are told to believe.


I haven't been told anything though. Looking at the preponderance of evidence, evidence which you would deny as you have throughout this thread even when that evidence answered your questions directly, is what I'm doing. The evidence isn't limited to phenotypic and morphological characteristics, which is the definition that you are clinging to.

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I like to think for myself.



While that's admirable, I don't think you have actually looked at the evidence with any honesty. Here, 'thinking for yourself' is just a proxy for your own laziness. Here's a challenge, can you accurately describe the state of evidence for evolution currently with no reference to Darwin at all? Just describe it using peer-reviewed sources as plainly and dryly as possible.
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