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re: Home schooling has become America’s fastest-growing form of education

Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:43 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:43 am to
Yeah, that’s why I said “real”
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:45 am to
What makes homeschool group events not real?
Posted by eitek1
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:51 am to
My son was home schooled from 5th through 8th grade. I wanted him to go to high school and was honestly worried he'd be a bit behind the other kids since honestly, he only did "school" about 2 hours a day.

When taking placement testing, his reading was at a college level and everything was above grade level except for math.

After about 3 weeks of school at a good private school, he swapped to some honors classes and made excellent grades the first 9 weeks.

Due to the complexity of the math, my wife was at her academic limit for teaching. She did great until 9th grade though.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:03 pm to
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I could see this working out if you have highly educated parents but for the majority this will not end well.


This is accurate.

I've dealth with a fair amount of homeschoolers between what I do now and previously working in education (when kids would be re-entering public ed).

The ones that were the most successful were ones that worked with local cohort so they were still getting social interaction with a variety of peers and had good guidance/curriculum in a more structured program. For instance, we have a couple cohorts where they go into a class a couple days a week for a couple of hours but the rest is guided at home with someone of competency writing the curriculum.

Far too often I'd see people who pulled their kids out because they were dissatisfied with their public education experience but VASTLY overestimated their ability to provide their kid with a well-rounded, developmentally appropriate education. And it seemed to happen right around middle school age range.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Quatrepot
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:05 pm to
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shocked, after doing dumb things like canceling the Hockey Teams travel to the State Championship, Canceling the Basketball teams travel to the State tourney..
How dare they take away the important things.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:07 pm to
Notice how the numbers spiked right during COVID
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:09 pm to
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It only takes like 2.5 hours in the mornings. You don't realize how much fluff is in a school day until you homeschool.


This is legitimate. I think we are going to see a dramatic shift in education in the next two decades because people are starting to realize just how inefficient our education model really is. I expect most private schools to adjust while a lot of publics will be left behind.
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:10 pm to
I used to be radically opposed to home schooling, but I've changed my tune. There are too many good kids who want to do well in school being forced to compromise their education for at-risk, behaviorally challenged kids who don't want to be there. Seeing videos of fights, disrespect, disruptions, and aberrant lifestyles dominating particular schools, it's no wonder many people want to protect their kids from being influenced by those who are dragging down society.

Even in our affluent school system, I'm disturbed by how many elementary school kids have Smartphones with Tik Tok. Why do I need to worry about my 4th grader seeing Tik Tok content because other parents refuse to set boundaries for their kids? We also had a big issue a few years ago (right after covid) with unfettered access to the Internet with everyone getting their own chromebook. My son rarely used a chromebook in school, but he had time in the afternoon to play violent video games, watch crude content on YouTube, or access other websites I wouldn't approve at home. Bringing this up with the school board wasn't well-received, and they acted like blocking websites was outside of their responsibility. It was insane what it took to get something done about it.

So I completely understand home schooling. I do question those that are unqualified to teach higher level classes. How can a regular SAHM facilitate high quality learning in calculus? Chemistry? British Lit? Analytical and argumentative writing?

Further, so many want to decry the youth's inability to think critically, but how does home school help develop the literacy skills that lead to a freethinking, liberated citizen?

When I read a comment like the one in this thread about "getting the work done without fluff in 2.5 hours," it makes me think that home schooling is focusing purely on consuming content and focusing little on inquiry, analysis, and critique. Simply regurgitating information digested from an educational authority figure is the weakest form of education there is.

But the home schooling cohorts seem to have a better model than this. I'm curious how it all evolves as we move forward. Hopefully communities see better development in their children if they're able to be removed from failing schools that more of a detriment to their academic maturity than a benefit.

Edit - but to add, really this will only be taken advantage of by those who are privileged enough to home school. There have been moments I've considered it, but there's no way we can maintain our standard of living without my wife working.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:11 pm to
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VASTLY overestimated their ability to provide their kid with a well-rounded, developmentally appropriate education.
it also depends on how much the parents care

There were some homeschool weirdoes that used to come into the public library - either the parents try really hard to educate the children well or the parents couldn’t care less.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:13 pm to
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How can a regular SAHM facilitate high quality learning in calculus? Chemistry? British Lit? Analytical and argumentative writing?
there are curriculums that have teachers/counselors available for higher education questions

A lot of people in my homeschool group send their kids to the community college once they’re in high school to take those classes.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:15 pm to
The public school system in this country is one of the reasons I don’t get annoyed with paying for private school in LA.


I’d homeschool my child before he gets brainwashed in the public school system.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:19 pm to
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The problem is that means the kids are only going to be as smart as the parents.

I could see this working out if you have highly educated parents but for the majority this will not end well.


The last time I looked at the data on college readiness and standardized test scores, private school students were at the top, followed by homeschooled students, and public school students were significantly behind.

Posted by alajones
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:20 pm to
Holy misleading graphic Batman. It naturally peaked after covid. But Public school is still the overwhelming favorite.
Posted by Rick9Plus
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:21 pm to
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Feel bad for kids who will never get to play real high school sports or have real high school experiences


Have you been to a real high school lately? It isn’t what it used to be.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:23 pm to
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I’d homeschool my child before he gets brainwashed in the public school system.
I have a friend who took her kids out of a charter school bc they had to start writing their pronouns on their papers
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:24 pm to
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there are curriculums that have teachers/counselors available for higher education questions


So... Not homeschool?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:24 pm to
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Home schooling has become America’s fastest-growing form of education




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Holy misleading graphic Batman. It naturally peaked after covid. But Public school is still the overwhelming favorite.




Found the public school kid
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Have you been to a real high school lately? It isn’t what it used to be.



I went to a great public high school, wouldn't set foot on that campus today without Seal Team 6 as bodyguards
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:26 pm to
If my kids didn't go to an awesome Charter school, i'd encourage my wife to Home School them.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:31 pm to
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So... Not homeschool?
we are home in our pjs
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