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re: Hold up...kids get rings for winning travel ball tournaments
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:58 am to CanShakersDecayedNut
Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:58 am to CanShakersDecayedNut
Rings for a championship are stupid unless it’s a national championship for something – a cpl of years ago my son was on an Ontario championship hockey team and the usual stupid BS mother pulls out “ we need to get the boys rings for all their hard work etc ….” she convinced a couple of the moms to look into it – it was $500 a ring and the local assoc kicked in 1/2 . Needless to say my kid didn’t get a ring he took the $250 and got a nice jacket, embroidered duffle and a t shirt or 2. He uses the duffle a lot, wears the jacket all the time and I have never seen any of the kids wear their rings. About ½ the team went w the ring option. Now it was a neat accomplishment for them and the team stuck together and went to the final one more time but which showed me how hard it is to win a championship even w a great team. This was for 15 yr olds so I cant imagine it for 12 yr olds or so
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 9:59 am to Choupique19
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If a college coach is conscious of pitching a player on back to back days, shouldn't a youth coach be concerned with pitching kids 2 innings on one day, and then 4 or more on the next day? On top of that, it's not just once, it's several times a month that this process takes place.
Its tough, We monitor pitch count and not innings but because of USSSA rules we have to be mindful of both. Last weekend, we had our Ace pitch on Saturday morning because he hadnt thrown in game in a while and he wanted to pitch.. Well we treated it like a practice session with a limit of 25 pitches because he was going to pitch the next day. We wanted to get an innings of work and he blew through the first innings in 9 pitches.. We let him go out in the second and got out in 12 pitches..
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:01 am to Choupique19
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Yet, he is not going to overpitch one of his players just to get a win.
you know what sucks? Our ace threw 65 pitches yesterday, 40 of those were strikes and he had 8 strike outs. We pulled him in the final inning when we were up by 5 runs. We ended up losing that game by 1 run due to some errors in the field , no biggie.
The kid could have gone longer but not at the expense of hurting his arm. It's ok, we were happy to make it that far and we have a long summer. We will be there again
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:03 am to tgrbaitn08
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The kid could have gone longer but not at the expense of hurting his arm. It's ok, we were happy to make it that far and we have a long summer. We will be there again
I can support this approach.
There is no game, not even the Super, Duper, Mega-World Series in Disney World that is worth risking the physical health of a youth athlete.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:04 am to Choupique19
Walker HS from Baton Rouge had a kid who threw 181 pitches in a 12 inning game last week... the most any Major League pitcher has thrown in 25 years is Tim Wakefield throwing 172 as a knuckleballer.
So between that and the Emerson Gibbs game, I'm supposed to believe Louisiana high school pitchers have more rubbery arms than the best in MLB.
and now we've seen how Mitch Sewald burned out of the game, probably from that night
So between that and the Emerson Gibbs game, I'm supposed to believe Louisiana high school pitchers have more rubbery arms than the best in MLB.
and now we've seen how Mitch Sewald burned out of the game, probably from that night
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:07 am to TROLA
I read that a Walker High pitcher threw 181 pitches in a game and his very naive family was bragging about it.
Every coach that abuses a young arm says the same thing..."I asked him how he felt and he said good". An athlete should have that attitude, but the coach must protect him.
beat me to it
Every coach that abuses a young arm says the same thing..."I asked him how he felt and he said good". An athlete should have that attitude, but the coach must protect him.
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chalmetteowl
beat me to it
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:07 am to chalmetteowl
Do travel ball parents ever take a step back and realize they are talking about 8-12yo kids.
Chances are 1/50 kids may make it to play D1 ball.
Chances are 1/50 kids may make it to play D1 ball.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:08 am to Fusaichi Pegasus
This is the difference between League and Travel ball, at least in Bossier. My son has played travel ball on a AAA team for three years. He's 12 and is an above average player but not a "natural". Because of Travel ball he is the difference between a good college player and a good high school player due to quality of coaching and competition level. He joined a league team this spring and 6 of the 11 kids had either never played baseball or daddy had "coached" them and they still didn't know proper batting or fielding technics. My son loves baseball and if he decided not to play so be it, but league ball nets zero high school players and beyond. I want him to have a chance if he desires to go as high as he wants to work for. Most league kids won't find out their not good enough until they don't make the freshman team at the high school level. This may be different else where but this is what Bossier/Shreveport and West Monroe, which is where I'm from.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:08 am to chalmetteowl
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Walker HS from Baton Rouge had a kid who threw 181 pitches in a 12 inning game last week... the most any Major League pitcher has thrown in 25 years is Tim Wakefield throwing 172 as a knuckleballer.
So between that and the Emerson Gibbs game, I'm supposed to believe Louisiana high school pitchers have more rubbery arms than the best in MLB.
and now we've seen how Mitch Sewald burned out of the game, probably from that night
Aaron Nola threw 150 pitches in 10 innings his sophomore year in high school, and was not the same pitcher for the rest of the year. Austin Wood from Texas had that 160 pitch or so outing in the NCAA postseason in 2009. He was not good in Omaha 2 weeks later.
Pitching that much is not wise at all, especially when there is more season left.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:10 am to chalmetteowl
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Walker HS from Baton Rouge had a kid who threw 181 pitches in a 12 inning game last week...
Good god.. Years ago when the information wasn't out there and conclusive, I can understand..barely. In today's world that's fricking ridiculous.
ETA: Not only is it horrible that he threw 180 pitches but sat down and got up 12 times with subsequent warm up pitches..
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:11 am to Fusaichi Pegasus
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Chances are 1/50 kids may make it to play D1 ball.
way too generous odds. maybe 1/500
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:13 am to Fusaichi Pegasus
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Chances are 1/50 kids may make it to play D1 ball.
Who gives a frick?
Your kid dresses up like a Navy Seal and plays army with the other kids int he neighborhood, whats the chances that your kid is going to actually become a Navy Seal?
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:14 am to theBeard
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way too generous odds. maybe 1/500
Probably even less than that. Counting back to my years when I played baseball as a kid back in the late 70's and early 80's to my days coaching little league ball in the last 8 or so years (still coaching today), I've known exactly two players to go onto professional baseball careers. And I'll bet I could count on both hands the number of kids who went on to even play college ball.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:17 am to choupiquesushi
How is a ring cheaper than trophies? Trophies are cheap plastic that don't need to be customized. Rings need to be sized, likely the parents will want to have the kids number on the ring, etc.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:17 am to tgrbaitn08
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Who gives a frick?
Your kid dresses up like a Navy Seal and plays army with the other kids int he neighborhood, whats the chances that your kid is going to actually become a Navy Seal?
Good point. Youth sports are suppose to be fun for the kid. As adults involved in the sport (both parents and coaches) our only goals should be
(1) make it safe
(2) make it fun
(3) teach the fundamentals of sportsmanship and the fundamentals of the game.
If an adult is into youth sports for wins, championships, or to try and get their kid into the Bigs, they've got their priorities out of order.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:18 am to tgrbaitn08
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Who gives a frick?
Your kid dresses up like a Navy Seal and plays army with the other kids int he neighborhood, whats the chances that your kid is going to actually become a Navy Seal?
How much money did it cost you for the supplies of his Navy Seal outfit? How much time did your family sit out in the yard and watch him play with the other kids? How many private Navy Seal lessons did you pay for? Did your kid ever become "numb" to playing Navy Seals because he's played Navy Seals so much since he was 7 years old that it's just routine now, and not enjoyment?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:18 am to TROLA
What age do you see some kids start hitting over the fence? Just curious.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:19 am to Darth_Vader
If the parent thinks travel ball will give him a better opportunity to further his baseball progression....fine.
but dont think your kid is the end all/be all to baseball. Chances are Juan is playing street stickball barefoot in Puerto Rico and is better than your kid.
Im just saying to quit taking that shite so serious.
but dont think your kid is the end all/be all to baseball. Chances are Juan is playing street stickball barefoot in Puerto Rico and is better than your kid.
Im just saying to quit taking that shite so serious.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:19 am to WHOA mack
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How is a ring cheaper than trophies?
You guys are putting way too much stock into the quality of these rings. They are cheap little pieces of jewlery that aren't more expensive than a trophy.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 10:21 am to BigEdLSU
13-14 you start seeing kids hit balls over 300 ft.
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