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re: Hold up...kids get rings for winning travel ball tournaments
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:55 am to LSUERDOC
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:55 am to LSUERDOC
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His pitching coach has a World Series ring with the Atlanta Braves (Pedro Borbon) and he says of all his students, mine has the most potential to make it in this spor
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LSUERDOC
Wow...this thread certainly took a turn towards the sad. Complete with pictures and MLB Name Dropping too. But Pedro Borbon never pitched for the Braves. He won World Series with the Big Red Machine of the 1970's. You should probably know that if he's is that close to your kid.
Kid is a big boy though.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:55 am to Darth_Vader
darth, you ever coach any college or professional players?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:57 am to CanShakersDecayedNut
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But Pedro Borbon never pitched for the Braves
he had a son.
you prob feel stupid right about now
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:04 pm to WFTiger
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WFTiger
We are on the same page and I agree with everything you posted. However, you are looking at this from a coaching viewpoint. I am just proud of my kid and his accomplishments. Of course when I work with him it's not about HRs or strikeouts. It's about repetition and learning to make adjustments and being a better player. Results come with hard work...which we have been doing since he was 8. It's nice to see the results and be a part of him achieving his goals.
When he was 9 I gave him a 100 piece NY Yankees (his favorite team at the time) puzzle. Whenever he achieved a goal or had a great game or hit a HR/pitched a no-hitter he got a piece of the puzzle. When he got all 100 pieces this past summer and put the puzzle together I took him to New York to watch them play the Rangers. It was a great experience and made him work harder.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:05 pm to Lester Earl
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darth, you ever coach any college or professional players?
The oldest kids I've coached are currently playing at the 11&12 year old level.
I started with my son back when he was in 4&5 T-ball and I've moved up with his age group who are now in their last year of little league before they move on to school ball.
So, to answer your question, no college or pro players. But I will say that a couple of them, if (and that's a big if) they continue to develop and grow like they are could probably at least play some college ball down the road. As for pro ball? Who knows?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:06 pm to CanShakersDecayedNut
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CanShakersDecayedNut
I'm sorry for hijacking the thread...I will stop.
But, Pedro Borbon Jr did pitch for the Braves...you're thinking of his dad.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:07 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
Beat me to it...
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:07 pm to Lester Earl
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he had a son.
you prob feel stupid right about now
Yeah, especially since Pedro has been dead since 2012.
I grew in Cincy...I'm allowed to default to the dad.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:12 pm to Darth_Vader
I respect your opinion, but I will trust my own years of playing and coaching. If my 2nd baseman has a 1.000 fielding percentage but he is backhanding every ground ball instead of squaring up and catching it out in front, I'm going to hit him as many ground balls as it takes for him to fix that problem. That's the little thing that I learn about a player that isn't in the score book. His stats may say he's the best fielder on the team, but his play will tell me something different. I don't discount stats completely, I just don't believe in judging performance on them. I'm a "show me" kind of guy.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:15 pm to WFTiger
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I respect your opinion, but I will trust my own years of playing and coaching. If my 2nd baseman has a 1.000 fielding percentage but he is backhanding every ground ball instead of squaring up and catching it out in front, I'm going to hit him as many ground balls as it takes for him to fix that problem. That's the little thing that I learn about a player that isn't in the score book. His stats may say he's the best fielder on the team, but his play will tell me something different. I don't discount stats completely, I just don't believe in judging performance on them. I'm a "show me" kind of guy.
I understand and respect your opinion. And like I said, stats are not the end all be all, you can't really judge a kid based solely on their stats. it's just a useful tool to go along with what you see on the field with your own eyes. I'm not saying use stats in the place of observation, I'm advising to use them along with observation.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:21 pm to Darth_Vader
Gamechanger is pretty awesome and will be as in depth as the person keeping the book. We dont keep the pitch location or fielding as accurate as it could be because its to intensive for the guy running the program..
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:23 pm to TROLA
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Gamechanger is pretty awesome and will be as in depth as the person keeping the book. We dont keep the pitch location or fielding as accurate as it could be because its to intensive for the guy running the program..
I was really lucky in that I had a great mom that really knew what she was doing on the book. She was like Rainman with a score book.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:45 pm to CanShakersDecayedNut
you came at him pretty hard. all im saying
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:49 pm to Lester Earl
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you came at him pretty hard. all im saying
Yeah, he did post pics and share stats of his 12 year old kid...on the internet. So. Yeah, I did.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:50 pm to CanShakersDecayedNut
I understand and respect your opinion.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:57 pm to CanShakersDecayedNut
Is it not impressive? Huge kid. I'm impressed.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:16 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
My son has played travel ball with his friends since he was 10 (he's 13 now). It's been an absolute blast, he loves it and can't wait to play his next tourney. Loves practice and hanging out with his teammates/friends. It's not for everyone and I hate that it's ruining local leagues but for us it's a homerun. Yeah he's gotten rings, trophies, wooden bats, plaques and you name it as trophies. But most importantly we've made some of the best memories ever as a family.
Took the family to Cooperstown for a week long tournament and it was an unforgettable memory for our entire family. We've been to Houston (tourney and catch the Astros), Gulfport, Gulf Shores, Panama City, Tennessee for baseball tournaments and he's made friends with a ton of kids from all over the State of Louisiana that he text/emails and we get to see them when we play them on weekends.
You can knock, travel but in general the bad parents give it a bad name. Whether it's rec ball, travel ball, or whatever. If parents would just sit back, keep their mouth shut and just cheer on their kid we'd all have more fun.
My family is glad we found a baseball family to join and make many memories with. No my kid won't be a MLB star, he may play HS baseball but when we are fishing 10 yrs from now we'll still be talking about the HR's, hits, errors, pitching performances, tough losses and great wins we've experienced together and it'll help pass the day.
Took the family to Cooperstown for a week long tournament and it was an unforgettable memory for our entire family. We've been to Houston (tourney and catch the Astros), Gulfport, Gulf Shores, Panama City, Tennessee for baseball tournaments and he's made friends with a ton of kids from all over the State of Louisiana that he text/emails and we get to see them when we play them on weekends.
You can knock, travel but in general the bad parents give it a bad name. Whether it's rec ball, travel ball, or whatever. If parents would just sit back, keep their mouth shut and just cheer on their kid we'd all have more fun.
My family is glad we found a baseball family to join and make many memories with. No my kid won't be a MLB star, he may play HS baseball but when we are fishing 10 yrs from now we'll still be talking about the HR's, hits, errors, pitching performances, tough losses and great wins we've experienced together and it'll help pass the day.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:32 pm to WFTiger
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If my 2nd baseman has a 1.000 fielding percentage but he is backhanding every ground ball instead of squaring up and catching it out in front, I'm going to hit him as many ground balls as it takes for him to fix that problem.
This is one of the main differences between Latin players/coaches and American players/coaches
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:41 pm to Darth_Vader
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darth, you ever coach any college or professional players?
The oldest kids I've coached are currently playing at the 11&12 year old level.
I started with my son back when he was in 4&5 T-ball and I've moved up with his age group who are now in their last year of little league before they move on to school ball.
So, to answer your question, no college or pro players. But I will say that a couple of them, if (and that's a big if) they continue to develop and grow like they are could probably at least play some college ball down the road. As for pro ball? Who knows?
Darth, you ever coach any players that ended up playing college or MLB?
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 1:42 pm
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