re: History as a school subject

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Had never seen that before, nor heard of Jordan Peterson.

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Highly recommend watching, or listening, to his appearances on Joe Rogan's podcast.

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Have recent events been a death sentence to the importance of History as a school subject?

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No. Of course not. If anything, it underscores its importance, and why there needs to be a balance in the curriculum.

Look at how emotional everyone is getting over this one issue, nationwide, for a whole week now. Obviously, people care about history. On TD, there are history topics in the forum every single day, without fail. We are always talking about it, we are always going back to it to help shape our perceptions and opinions. Why on earth would we drop it as a subject?

All that I've seen in the past week convinces me that we need better education in history at all levels of schooling. Since the incident last weekend, I have seen many people on both sides of the issue pushing poor interpretations of history, with most of them failing to actually realize what history is, and what it isn't. Now's not the time to dial it back on history in schools.

Nah bruh, I learned everything I know from statues. No statue means no learning.

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Had never seen that before, nor heard of Jordan Peterson.

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You should definitely check him out. Start with his podcast with Joe Rogan.

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Anyone who would downvote your post is arrogantly living in a fantasy-land where the present is always perfec

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NBD. I've got a serial dv-er

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Jordan Peterson.

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Ah yes, the man who's made a career of using 10,000 words where 3 will do. If you really want some frustration in your life, check him out on Sam Harris' podcast.

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have several textbooks at home from the 1950's...and older...I often have my teenage boys read those when they are studying something from American history in particular...to get another perspective from their teacher generated chrome book slideshow presentation

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I'm curious what a 1950s history textbook would say that is revised in modern history books. Any examples?

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Have recent events been a death sentence to the importance of History as a school subject? I was always under the impression that part of the reason to study History was to learn from the errors made in the past.

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I think people are putting too much value on a statue.

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I'm not sure if I necessarily agree or disagree with that but I definitely believe it's the first first sign of a new direction in how historical figures will be sieved through 21st century morality, which is a very bad thing.

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I understand that type of sentiment, but there is part of me that thinks morality is one of those things that shouldn't change throughout history. At the very least, being on the wrong side of history when things started to change should be a knock against someone, IMO.

Regardless, the Civil War should be taught with as little political slant as possible. All of American history should be taught that way.

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I'm curious what a 1950s history textbook would say that is revised in modern history books. Any examples?

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biggest thing I have noticed is that their little cutesy pootsy slide show presentations that are simply meant to prepare them for a test at the end of every year so the school can continue to receive Federal funding...severely lack any depth of the issues that for example...led up to all of our wars prior to 1950.

hitting a few highpoints about the Civil War..ie...muh slavery, muh Ft. sumter...muh Lincoln savior of humanity..muh Southerners were inbred racist bieces of shite...does not really clearly indicate the issues of the time that had been going on for damn near 50 years prior to 1861

or here is another...

February is Black History Month...got it...cool...no problems...discuss those heroes of the civil rights era and those African-Americans who greatly contributed to the success of this nation..but my 6th grader did civil rights for basically all of the spring semester...they glossed over WWI, the Depression, and WWII and then spent months on the civil rights movement, The War on Poverty, and the Feminist movement...making very little mention of the fricking COLD WAR that was ever present through all of those years....


there is no in depth analysis of where we came from and who we are and why America is fricking badass and the greatest nation on the planet...just what all was wrong with us and who the brave souls were that fought against all this so called internal tyranny and what all needed to be "fixed"


...basically the ideology of the left in a nutshell

oh and there are no history books, or science books...its all Google this and Google that and slide shows and what not...even their Math text books have been taken away

like I said....they build the slide shows to get them ready for the standardized tests at the end of the school year..thats it.

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I understand that type of sentiment, but there is part of me that thinks morality is one of those things that shouldn't change throughout history

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I think it's absolutely essential. It's important to contextualize the prevailing behaviors and beliefs or we can turn everyone into a raging monster. Hell, we have people now saying that math and milk are racist. Using that type of hypersensitivity to judge someone who had to be "brutal" out of necessity to survive isn't honest.

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At the very least, being on the wrong side of history when things started to change should be a knock against someone, IMO.

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"Wrong side of history" is such a cancerous term.