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re: Herd Turns on Hunters After They Gun Down Bull Elephant
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:59 pm to weagle99
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:59 pm to weagle99
I find it amusing that this board - this board - assumes the one thing Africans can get right is the fair and efficient disbursement of funds to hunt local wildlife. Those jnnocent elephants and other endangered species - I like the elephants that dont get killed.
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 10:26 pm to Morty
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I find it amusing that this board - this board - assumes the one thing Africans can get right is the fair and efficient disbursement of funds to hunt local wildlife.
Exactly
Posted on 10/19/18 at 11:30 pm to Pettifogger
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Can't watch that, elephants are awesome
Me neither. I watched a documentary that followed a herd that detoured to go to a site where herd and family members had been killed by poachers.
The documentary crew was familiar with the site and who was killed and where their bones lay.
Members of the herd went to relatives' carcasses like mother or aunt or daughter and picked up those individuals' bones and began doing something like mourning. Noises and cries and their eyes ran liquid profusely as though they were crying.
It moves me today as much as it did then.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 2:11 am to baldona
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Then getting within 100 yards of an animal that size is not easy nor safe. It’s not my thing, but the idea that it isn’t sporting is about as far from the truth as it gets.
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 2:30 am
Posted on 10/20/18 at 5:31 am to brmark70816
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You aren't doing any of this. You don't hunt wolves or Bears. They bring in professionals to put them down or relocate them. The people you are trying to shame are the ones footing the bill for it. You know with our tax dollars that pay for the billions of acres of parks and wildlife reserves and the thousands of agents needed to manage these properties.
Hunters make up maybe 10% of the population and this notion that they are the great stewards of the forest is just horse shite. Hunters would wipe out the dear in a year, if they were allowed to. The only reasons hogs are a problem now is they are too expensive and not that great to eat. Flip that and they are gone in a couple of years..
Oy...maybe you should do a lot more reading up on this subject before trying to engage other people in a debate. There is so much wrong in these paragraphs (most of which has already been pointed out to you, thankfully), that it's painfully obvious you don't know whar you are talking about.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:16 am to EA6B
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The corruption in these countries is so bad that probably 99.999% of the money intended for poaching never goes to the intended purpose. As I posted before, in Kenya and other countries wildlife management officials are part of the poaching problem.
So what’s your solution then?
What you don’t understand is that a lot of the poachers work for the hunting companies and land owners. So if the land owners don’t employ them to help the hunters, they work as poachers.
And again, these guys aren’t going out to shoot any elephant they find. They target very specific old bulls. Many times they have just 1-2 bulls they are targeting on something like 500,000 acres of land.
So again, the idea that 1% of these elephants hunted today would be alive is simply false. The elephants that are shot are usually a nuasance to humans and have 0 benefit to their herd. So either a hunter comes in to pay $75,000 to hunt it or a game manager shoots it. Or more likely a poacher or local kills it because it’s threatening their village.
TIA man. This is Africa.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 8:50 am to Darth_Vader
If you aren't going to eat it
frick those guys
frick those guys
Posted on 10/20/18 at 9:36 am to thelawnwranglers
There’s a tremendous amount of misinformation about elephants and elephant hunting. Here’s elephant reality in Africa:
Elephants overpopulate and destroy crop fields.
Locals, who want to eat the crops they attempt to grow, will find ways to kill them. Often, the ways the kill the elephants aren’t nearly as efficient as a hunter making a brain shot with a .470 Nitro Express.
Professional Hunters, what we usually call Hunting Guides in the States, pick out the animals to thin. Dry Cows and very old bulls.
Poachers and locals defended their crops aren’t nearly as selective.
When the elephant hits the ground, it provides a tremendous amount of meat for the locals.
Reality check:
Elephants will be thinned. Do you want poachers and local farmers to destroy them all?
Or would you prefer a PH carefully select which animals to take out?
Elephants overpopulate and destroy crop fields.
Locals, who want to eat the crops they attempt to grow, will find ways to kill them. Often, the ways the kill the elephants aren’t nearly as efficient as a hunter making a brain shot with a .470 Nitro Express.
Professional Hunters, what we usually call Hunting Guides in the States, pick out the animals to thin. Dry Cows and very old bulls.
Poachers and locals defended their crops aren’t nearly as selective.
When the elephant hits the ground, it provides a tremendous amount of meat for the locals.
Reality check:
Elephants will be thinned. Do you want poachers and local farmers to destroy them all?
Or would you prefer a PH carefully select which animals to take out?
Posted on 10/20/18 at 11:24 am to 257WBY
If i had the spare change i would shoot an elephant.
I love how people jump on rheir high horse and criticize others for killing shite they dont eat- then turn around and call an exterminator to kill roaches insects and mice.
I love how people jump on rheir high horse and criticize others for killing shite they dont eat- then turn around and call an exterminator to kill roaches insects and mice.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 11:41 am to Darth_Vader
That is truly disgusting to watch. Too bad the herd didn’t finish the job on those cowards.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 2:16 pm to LSUwag
Do you guys feel bad about cows and chickens that are killed to put on the supermarket shelves?
An elephant is no different
An elephant is no different
Posted on 10/20/18 at 2:42 pm to Darth_Vader
Good. Pieces of shite.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 5:05 pm to Darth_Vader
Hope the herd fricked them up. Elephants are smart creatures and probably all got pissed at the same time.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 5:57 pm to GetCocky11
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How is there any skill in hunting an elephant
The skill in in the shot placement. You have to shoot them in the brain. Yes, their heads are large, but getting into position to do so when dealing with herd animals can be difficult.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 6:01 pm to YumYum Sauce
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If they truly are doing it to thin the herd then why not just euthanize them
Because euthanizing them doesn't put 50K into the local economy.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 6:15 pm to Darth_Vader
frick these pieces of shite. Wish the elephants caught them.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:03 pm to mattgr1983
Bunch of tards up in here.
Puts a ton of meat on the table for local villagers as well.
Puts a ton of meat on the table for local villagers as well.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:21 pm to geauxbrown
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Because euthanizing them doesn't put 50K into the local economy.
Neither does the hunt, it puts 50K in the pockets of corrupt government officials, but keep believing the fairy tell if it makes you feel better.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:45 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Hunters make up maybe 10% of the population and this notion that they are the great stewards of the forest is just horse shite
Next time I suggest you research Pittman Robertson Act before showing your ignorance on line.
How familiar are you with market hunting days of the late 1800's?
How familiar are you with groups like the National Wild Turkey Federation and what they did?
How about the millions of dollars that hunter funded groups such as Ducks Unlimited spend yearly on habitat improvement?
You allowed yourself to become emotional over an issue that you actually don't know shite about. I've done it myself before.
Posted on 10/20/18 at 7:46 pm to EA6B
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Neither does the hunt, it puts 50K in the pockets of corrupt government officials, but keep believing the fairy tell if it makes you feel bette
How much time have you spent there? Have you been on one of these hunts firsthand? Didn't think so.
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