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re: Help with riddle - How Much Money Did The Store Lose?

Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:02 pm to
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He's not a thief when he's making a purchase.

The "riddle" specifically states he is using the stolen $100 to purchase goods. Therefore if he didn't steal $100 they would have 1 less sale for that day. Whatever the profit was on the sale has to be subtracted because without the theft the sale doesn't occur.

He is still a thief when making the purchase. He just stole $100.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:03 pm to
Just pointing out that the loss of the 100 was offset by the profit of the sale.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:04 pm to
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The "riddle" specifically states he is using the stolen $100 to purchase goods


Who gives a shite? They are separate events.
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Therefore if he didn't steal $100 they would have 1 less sale for that days.


Says who? Maybe he went there specifically to buy that item and the theft of the $100 was a crime of opportunity.
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Whatever the profit was on the sale has to be subtracted because without the theft the sale doesn't occur


You have no way to know that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:04 pm to
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ust pointing out that the loss of the 100 was offset by the profit of the sale.



No it isn't.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:05 pm to
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The thief gained $100. The store lost $30 plus the cost to restock the item.

If the $70 merchandise was 7 fountain drinks they were charging $10 each for then there is no way you can argue they lost $100.


That's overcomplicating the frick out of this riddle.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:07 pm to
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That's overcomplicating the frick out of this riddle.

Its an important distinction to make. If u steal an asperin from a hospital did they lose $70 if that is how much they bill people for them?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:12 pm to
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The store lost $30 plus the cost to restock the item.



So following your logic, court ordered restitution for stolen goods would not be at the retail cost. You should maybe do some research on that and see what you find.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36345 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:14 pm to
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A man walks into a store with $0.00 in his wallet. He walks out with $70 in merchandise and $30 in cash. The store lost $100.
That's what I was thinking.

Another way of thinking about it (in reverse): if I steal a $100 phone out of a store, then return it for a 'refund' of $100 cash, the answer is obviously $100.

I think all the talk about profit margins is clouding the issue because as it wasn't included in the question it wasn't deemed necessary to arrive at the answer.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:14 pm to
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So following your logic, court ordered restitution for stolen goods would not be at the retail cost.

Haha no. Court ordered restitution is a punishment for the thief, not simply a neutral act to make the store whole.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:16 pm to
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Haha no. Court ordered restitution is a punishment for the thief, not simply a neutral act to make the store whole.


There are fines on top of restitution that is the punishment you are describing. Just give it up already
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:20 pm to
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ust pointing out that the loss of the 100 was offset by the profit of the sale.


Usually if you don’t have the information to solve the riddle, you’re on the wrong track.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:23 pm to
Sorry man but any time you are talking business, the cost is always involved. If a bartender spills a $20 drink wit $2 worth of tequila and $1 worth of mixer in it, the restaurant didn't lose the same amount as the cook fricking up a $20 steak and having to make another.

Cost always comes into play when calculating loss.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Usually if you don’t have the information to solve the riddle, you’re on the wrong track.

This isn't a riddle anyway, it's some dumb Facebook share thing.

The answer is L(OSS)=$100-Profit (from sale made using the stolen $100)
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:25 pm to
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Sorry man but any time you are talking business, the cost is always involved. If a bartender spills a $20 drink wit $2 worth of tequila and $1 worth of mixer in it, the restaurant didn't lose the same amount as the cook fricking up a $20 steak and having to make another.

Cost always comes into play when calculating loss.




More irrelevant hypotheticals to overcomplicate the riddle.

The bottom line is that there was only one loss, the $100 stolen. The fact that there was then a transaction where that $100 was used has absolutely no bearing on how much the loss was.

Continuing your logic, had the thief bought enough merchandise, the store wouldn't have actually lost any money.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:26 pm to
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More irrelevant hypotheticals to overcomplicate the riddle.

The bottom line is that there was only one loss, the $100 stolen. The fact that there was then a transaction where that $100 was used has absolutely no bearing on how much the loss was.

Yep

It's just there as a distraction to make people over think the problem. If provides zero useful information.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:28 pm to
I don’t care enough to argue with a screen name
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12927 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Continuing your logic, had the thief bought enough merchandise, the store wouldn't have actually lost any money.

Yes this is true. If the owner took a shite in a jar and slapped $100 price tag on it and then the thief bought it with the $100 bill, the store actually wouldn't have lost any money.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Yes this is true.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:31 pm to
On the surface $100. $70 in goods and $30 in cash, but diving deeper it's really $30 in cash and cost of goods that the store paid for the items that was bought.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 3:34 pm to
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but diving deeper it's really $30 in cash and cost of goods that the store paid for the items that was bought.



So diving deeper, the register count at the end of the day will not be short $100?
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