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re: Heaven over hospital-Parents give terminally ill 5 year old life altering choice

Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:35 pm to
Get her away from those stupid Jesus freak parents who are gonna let her commit suicide/kill her
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15429 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:36 pm to
Did anyone read the article?

I noticed an edit 3 minutes after the post, so maybe something was left out.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Get her away from those stupid Jesus freak parents who are gonna let her commit suicide/kill her


Read the article you fricking retard.

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Dr. Danny Hsia, her pulmonologist, observes that Julianna is wiser than most 5-year-olds. "In that case, it makes a lot of sense to listen to her. I have the utmost faith in her mother and father. They're phenomenal parents and have her best wishes at heart," he says.

He believes that when Julianna gets another infection, the hospital will likely not be able to save her. "For her, there is no light at the end of the tunnel," he says, his voice trailing off. "She doesn't have a long time to live."


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Diana Scolaro, the nurse who took care of Julianna through three stays in the intensive care unit, also supports Steve and Michelle's decision to listen to their daughter. "You have to know what it's like to hold down a child and hear them scream so you can stick a tube down their nose. It's one thing to do that when you know you'll have a success at the end, but for Julianna, there is no success," she says. "We pulled her from death's door so many times last year, but she's sicker now than she was then, and I don't think we could pull her through another big crisis."
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:39 pm to
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I noticed an edit 3 minutes after the post, so maybe something was left out.


Only thing I changed was I quoted the paragraphs after ETA. They came from the original linked article That's it.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:39 pm to
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I get the feeling most people here didnt read the article.




What the hell does that have to do with anything? Parents shouldn't murder healthy five year olds, period.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 12:46 pm
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:40 pm to
Stupid uneducated Christin idiot parents.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Get her away from those stupid Jesus freak parents who are gonna let her commit suicide/kill her




You mean the mother who is also a neurologist and very aware of the prognosis her daughter's condition carries? And the father who is a pilot (which means he's very educated as well).


Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25350 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:41 pm to
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shouldn't murder




use me
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:41 pm to
I know this is your "thing" but please don't encourage these idiots...
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96270 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:42 pm to
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But Julianna is 5 years old. Should her parents have let her know how grave her situation is?


Some 5 year olds are older than others.

Self determination does not have an "age of consent" - in my opinion - at least not for all purposes. As long as the choice is reasonable and her choice certainly seems to be reasonable - I say, let it stand.

And, yes, I believe a 5 year old (although that is kind of the lower limit for most) is old enough to accept truth. It's not like she hasn't been dealing with this shite for her entire collective memory. Kids know shite even if you don't tell them.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:42 pm to
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You mean the mother who is also a neurologist and very aware of the prognosis her daughter's condition carries? And the father who is a pilot (which means he's very educated as well).


And her doctors and nurses that agree with the girl's decision to stay at home because none of them believe that they can save her anymore...
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
8721 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:42 pm to
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God made her sick and now he is going to take care of her, that's rich. Oh yeah, he only get's the props, never the blame.


This
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:43 pm to
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DCF needs to go get that kid ASAP

Yay! Not only will she suffer from the painful treatments, but now she can do it from the discomfort of someone else's not so loving arms. Great solution!
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:43 pm to
this entire thread can go to hell. thats all
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25350 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:43 pm to
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Stupid uneducated Christian idiot parents.



FIFY

Wouldn't want you to seem uneducated in addition to religiously bigoted.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109023 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Parents shouldn't murder healthy five year olds, period.


I'm pretty sure a kid with a terminal illness doesn't exactly fall under the category of "healthy".
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96270 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Stronger children usually scream and have to be restrained when someone tries to put the tube down their nose. But Julianna was so weak all she could do was cry.


Yeah - frick that. Someone does that to my kid without any realistic chance of her getting better - that's a problem. If they don't stop when I say stop, that's a bigger problem. Sometimes merely existing isn't worth the price, tough as that sounds.
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2012
3512 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:46 pm to
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God made her sick and now he is going to take care of her, that's rich.
Oh yeah, he only get's the props, never the blame.

Yeh, I have a hard time understanding the "It's all in God's plan type of people."
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:46 pm to
I was making fun of the overly opinionated individuals who didn't read the article.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:47 pm to
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Sometimes merely existing isn't worth the price, tough as that sounds.


Even the doctors and nurses that have been working on this girl say they don't think she'll survive another trip to the hospital.

It would be different if a hospital stay guaranteed that she'd live a few months longer... but that doesn't seem like the outcome here. Let the girl die at home where she wants to be.
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