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re: Has technology made us dumber, social media made us less social?
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The days of "your word is your bond" are gone. Sad, but true.
not really, at least where i am
I think that lawyers here still accept the word of most other lawyers. However, for malpractice purposes it is necessary to document a file and correspondence with a client in as detailed a manner as possible.
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Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:13 pm to damnedoldtigah
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Yes. When I was coming up, during summer break mothers in the neighborhood fed the kids breakfast and then put them out of the house to go play. Interaction with other peers helped to facilitate social skills, problem solving, conflict resolution (you did not have the luxury of trying to beat the shite out of each other because there was no adult there to break you up; therefore, skirmishes were avoided), verbal skills, etc. A kid does not get that when they are sitting in front of a computer screen all day or playing with their phones all day.
Exactly, and the same experiences by myself and others around me. You were forced to develop those skills and get along with people who you didn't agree with, and who shared vastly different personalities than yourself. To top it off, there were a whole lot fewer overweight kids with their asses hanging out their clothes, and not in a sexy way either.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:15 pm to damnedoldtigah
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. There are certain things that we learned by rote learning that made us exercise our brains and also made for generalization of skills. Critical thought was stronger as a result.
then why are the intelligence scores of those generations suffering from "critical thought" issues continuing to surpass the generations who engaged in the schemes you believe develop critical thinking?
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When I was coming up, during summer break mothers in the neighborhood fed the kids breakfast and then put them out of the house to go play. Interaction with other peers helped to facilitate social skills, problem solving, conflict resolution (you did not have the luxury of trying to beat the shite out of each other because there was no adult there to break you up; therefore, skirmishes were avoided), verbal skills, etc. A kid does not get that when they are sitting in front of a computer screen all day or playing with their phones all day.
anecdotes! subjective preference! discussion over
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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anecdotes! subjective preference! discussion over
You may want it to be dismissed, but it's not. It's quite relevant to the discussion because it's based in observation and experiences through time living on this planet, something that google can't give you.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:20 pm to Mike da Tigah
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You may want it to be dismissed, but it's not.
subjective anecdotes offer very little evidence to a discussion about generational comparisons
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It's quite relevant to the discussion
sure, but it has almost no value b/c it's one of 300 million stories. it's statistically insignificant
kids today just aren't being educated. look at that graph. calculus AP examinations have more than doubled in only 17 years
certainly shows that social media and technology is making students less intelligent and affecting educations
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:21 pm to Mike da Tigah
I'm not going to speak for how young children grow up now, but the proclaimed reliance on and slavery to technology that older generations impose on college-aged kids now is vastly overblown. I, as well as kids years younger than I, did the whole "get out of the house during the summer instead of playing computer games" that older people seem to think is some antiquated concept for everyone not born before 1980.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Critical thinking improvement shown through test scores. No bias possible in the questioning there.
Your argument is just as easily dismissed.
Your argument is just as easily dismissed.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:25 pm to Louie T
also, many targets of this discussion are towards the lower class, who, like older generations, lack the intelligence to fully grasp tech and allow it to improve their lives. as always, they bring things down
look at the opposite end of the spectrum, and the top-tier is advancing at an insane pace
look at the opposite end of the spectrum, and the top-tier is advancing at an insane pace
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:27 pm to High C
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Critical thinking improvement shown through test scores. No bias possible in the questioning there.
i don't even think you understand what i posted
this is a graph on test scores
this is a graph on testing quantity
also, with more higher-level students taking AP Calculus testing AND scoring at high levels, how is this biased?
this is about math and standardized testing, here
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Maybe I'm just misguided as to which generation this phenomenon supposedly plagues. If it's talking about 5-15 y/o people, I don't have much personal experience beyond what I observe my younger sister doing.
If it's college-aged kids, I (along with most of my friends) am either a rare breed or this technological reliance is largely a myth.
If it's college-aged kids, I (along with most of my friends) am either a rare breed or this technological reliance is largely a myth.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your technique of talking down to people through your own perceived (veil of) intelligence is amusing.
"If you disagree with me, you're poor trash."
Go eat another microwaved burrito.
"If you disagree with me, you're poor trash."
Go eat another microwaved burrito.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:30 pm to Louie T
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Maybe I'm just misguided as to which generation this phenomenon supposedly plagues. If it's talking about 5-15 y/o people, I don't have much personal experience beyond what I observe my younger sister doing.
If it's college-aged kids, I (along with most of my friends) am either a rare breed or this technological reliance is largely a myth.
i think the target shifts for the argument, honestly
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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sure, but it has almost no value b/c it's one of 300 million stories
When the stories all line up and agree, you should probably take it as an accepted fact of life at some point, and that's what they do, line up. Every single person I knew was outside playing with neighborhood kids, and all of us had to learn to get along with one another. I don't think there was a kid in the neighborhood I didn't know, and it was sizable.
In Baton Rouge for example, the combination of our change in life with kids outside all day to now being behind electronics, and the taking kids away from their neighborhood schools through bussing and splitting up whole neighborhoods, we've paid a bigger price than just awkward kids lacking in social skills, but in our whole communities having no sense of themselves or identification with where they live.
You have to remember, there were three TV stations and they all sucked horribly during the day, with soaps and shite and so punishment was being made to stay indoors while your friends were all outside playing and living life, learning real life shite, etc... Not so much at all today. That's not normal in any human sense of the word normal for people, and so yes, we've become awkward people as a result.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:32 pm to Louie T
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I'm not going to speak for how young children grow up now, but the proclaimed reliance on and slavery to technology that older generations impose on college-aged kids now is vastly overblown. I, as well as kids years younger than I, did the whole "get out of the house during the summer instead of playing computer games" that older people seem to think is some antiquated concept for everyone not born before 1980.
This. Also High C comes off as ignorant but continue living that way and you will surely be left behind.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:34 pm to High C
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Your technique of talking down to people through your own perceived (veil of) intelligence is amusing.
i'm not talking down to anything
there is a sociological "tax" for the lack of using technology. this goes from wasteful uses of personal resources to literally paying more for goods/shipping. i've written about it before and have heard numerous podcasts reference it
it's going to be a major political point moving forward, b/c it is creating a larger schism b/c the middle-upper class and the poorer classes. when things like cryptocurrencies take off, it is going to be even larger. i didn't create the discussion, i'm just referencing it
and it's real
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"If you disagree with me, you're poor trash."
i never said that. i can state something similar
if you disagree with me, i will wager that you're likely at least one of these:
(1) 5+ years older than me
(2) a social conservative
(3) of lower intelligence or culture
this isn't a subjective judgment. i'm stating this based on stats/odds
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
i want to know the following: for those disagreeing with me, please tell me which era you're using as your halcyon example
i'm guessing, and i certainly could be wrong, that it was in the late 70s-80s
we're going to compare some stats on society from that era to today, to see which era was worse
i'm guessing, and i certainly could be wrong, that it was in the late 70s-80s
we're going to compare some stats on society from that era to today, to see which era was worse
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Im using 1948-1958, facts boi
Not the best time for minorities or women, but it was the golden age!!!
Not the best time for minorities or women, but it was the golden age!!!
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:49 pm to Mike da Tigah
Dumber: no.
Less social: absolutely
Less social: absolutely
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:51 pm to OMLandshark
Less social.....as we discuss on a wide-spectrum discussion forum where such detailed discussions were not available just 15 years ago.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:53 pm to Rouge
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Less social.....as we discuss on a wide-spectrum discussion forum where such detailed discussions were not available just 15 years ago.
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