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Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:44 am to SchneidersBakery
The freedom they were able to enjoy for one. With the advent of camera phones, any mistake you make at any time can now be recorded and uploaded for the world to see. Anyone can now be a celebrity overnight (usually not in a good way), and I think this causes people to be a lot more guarded. Awful was probably a little harsh.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
for true
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:46 am to Mike da Tigah
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What reference do you have to say that a frozen dinner is better than a home cooked meal of the same dinner
this is all highly subjective and requires a case-by-case analysis. what works for you may not work for another person
again, that's why it's a subjective evaluation/personal opinion. it suits your preferences and desires. it may not suit the time, money, etc of another
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
You are dealing with a seriously opinionated foodie, so you should avoid this path of conversation
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:47 am to Rouge
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One thing that technology and business has taught me is that if it is not in writing, IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
i try to use this for life in general
i'm literally blown away by how many of my clients claim to not have/use email. and some are young people
i try to have all client communications via email, but also in terms of family/friends and planning, i prefer it too
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:48 am to Rouge
me and mike go way back. he even rejects science about tasting b/c it doesn't suit his view on food/wine
that same opinion bleeds into other areas of his life. it's just the person he is
one day i will be that way
that same opinion bleeds into other areas of his life. it's just the person he is
one day i will be that way
This post was edited on 5/4/14 at 11:49 am
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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One thing that technology and business has taught me is that if it is not in writing, IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
Donald Sterling begs to differ.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:50 am to Rouge
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One thing that technology and business has taught me is that if it is not in writing, IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
Rouge, this is a good idea in any business. We live in a CYA world. I find myself writing more confirmatory emails than ever. The days of "your word is your bond" are gone. Sad, but true.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:53 am to IonaTiger
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The days of "your word is your bond" are gone. Sad, but true.
not really, at least where i am
but you're dealing with communications that you may need to reference years down the road. email is a very light application that uses almost 0 resources. why not create a written record to reference down the road, given the low cost of email?
i constantly send emails to myself about cases. client's name in the subject (one day i will develop case file numbers, lol), so that i can easily reference all of my notes on the case (and with my phone...anywhere, whether i have the physical file accessible or not). i'm constantly amazed at lawyer who reject this for much less efficient/reliable means (hand-writing notes, writing in file, memory, etc)
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you need to explain technology or advanced topics? eek. hell, even trying to explain technology to older or more rural judges can be a pain. i had a hearing involving tech a few months ago in a rural setting and it was difficult to explain everything
But that is true of anything. Most litigation involves some complexities of a sort. Our job is to make it as simple as possible so that young or old jurors/factfinders can understand the issue. I see no difference in learning about a complex surgical operation; an economist's testimony; or some other technical issue and conveying what I know to a jury -- old or young. While a younger lawyer may be more comfortable in explaining some IT related issue to a jury, I feel pretty confident that I can learn what I need to know; cross examine any opposing expert; and convey my client's position to a fact finder. Whether a jury, young or old, will get it is another story.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:59 am to IonaTiger
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Our job is to make it as simple as possible
i am amazing at this, but, that doesn't mean that people will even allow themselves to listen...esp older or more rural people
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I see no difference in learning about a complex surgical operation; an economist's testimony; or some other technical issue and conveying what I know to a jury -- old or young
but that doesn't mean the jury will attempt to listen to it, even if you're amazing at explaining these concepts in bite-size brain pieces.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Obviously the tech has made the lawyers more social.
Attention span?
Attention span?
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this is all highly subjective and requires a case-by-case analysis. what works for you may not work for another person
Case by case? Either you have something to draw from in the lines of really good home cooking or you don't, and I'm going with the fact that anyone who thinks Albertsons Deli turkey breast, ham, pastrami, or corned beef is better than actual real turkey breast, real ham, or pastrami and corned beef properly done in a real deil or at home is not in a case by case conundrum, but lacking in real life experiences.
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again, that's why it's a subjective evaluation/personal opinion. it suits your preferences and desires. it may not suit the time, money, etc of another
It's lacking in values and experiences. I haven't met many people in this world who would actually choose something sub par over something really tasty for the same money, and doing things in house is always cheaper than prepackaged product, because you're doing the labor. Again, not something google will cause you to understand and be more informed in because it's real life experiences that give you that. Google can tell you "how that's made" like how meat molds are sold as an actual ham, and how an actual ham is shaped to clearly drive the point home. What google can't do is get you to place a value to it through experience with the two, or cause you to see one as complete nonsense, and the other as actual cut of ham from a pig.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:04 pm to Mike da Tigah
The more intelligent/advanced/less trashy are selectively ignoring.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:05 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Has technology made us dumber?
Yes. Manual research reinforced learning. When you looked something up, in addition to the specific answer, there was context around that answer. Acquired knowledge had more breadth and depth for most. There are certain things that we learned by rote learning that made us exercise our brains and also made for generalization of skills. Critical thought was stronger as a result. Refer to a book entitled "The Dumbest Generation." You can find it on Amazon.com.
quote:Yes. When I was coming up, during summer break mothers in the neighborhood fed the kids breakfast and then put them out of the house to go play. Interaction with other peers helped to facilitate social skills, problem solving, conflict resolution (you did not have the luxury of trying to beat the shite out of each other because there was no adult there to break you up; therefore, skirmishes were avoided), verbal skills, etc. A kid does not get that when they are sitting in front of a computer screen all day or playing with their phones all day.
Has technology made us less social?
While this is a bit dismal, technology is a very useful tool as long as it is used on context as a tool and not solely relied on as a brain.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think we agree on how to present an issue, Slow. Where we disagree is whether an older juror can/will accept or even listen to our arguments. I do not underestimate your view of how jurors relate to you. But I will say that I have tried cases in rural sections of Virginia and I was pleasantly surprised that the jurors listened to the evidence and came up with a reasoned verdict. I have not always agreed with the verdict, but when they chose to discuss the case with counsel after the trial, it was clear to me that they understood what the case was about.
That's all any lawyer can ask -- that the jury understood the issues. How they decide the issue is out of our hands once they retire to the jury room.
That's all any lawyer can ask -- that the jury understood the issues. How they decide the issue is out of our hands once they retire to the jury room.
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Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:07 pm to Mike da Tigah
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I haven't met many people in this world who would actually choose something sub par over something really tasty for the same money, and doing things in house is always cheaper than prepackaged product, because you're doing the labor.
then it's not cheaper in terms of overall resources. time is more valuable to some people than a slight savings in dollars
again. this is a very individualized decision requiring a case-by-case.
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:08 pm to IonaTiger
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Where we disagree is whether an older juror can/will accept or even listen to our arguments.
that juror theoretically can, but is much less likely to do so, imho
Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:11 pm to damnedoldtigah
But, but, Flynn Effect
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