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Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineering
Posted by LSUisBetterthanU on 4/2/20 at 5:43 pm04
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re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by LSUisBetterthanU on 4/2/20 at 5:44 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
Looks like the structural engineer is to blame.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by SG_Geaux on 4/2/20 at 5:49 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
So there were pre-existing conditions apparently.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by TigerstuckinMS on 4/2/20 at 5:50 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
Ruh-roh.
Strict liability's a motherfricker.
My cousin is a structural engineer and in his words when he first looked at the inspection prints that were released months ago, "they'd probably better contact some form of criminal defense attorney if they already haven't".
Strict liability's a motherfricker.
My cousin is a structural engineer and in his words when he first looked at the inspection prints that were released months ago, "they'd probably better contact some form of criminal defense attorney if they already haven't".
This post was edited on 4/2 at 5:55 pm
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by wheelr on 4/2/20 at 5:54 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
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Altogether, 11 companies working on the project were fined about $306,000 for problems that were in place before the collapse.
Are these fines normal for this scale of project? Or does OSHA have quite the racket going?
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by Chef Free Gold Bloom on 4/2/20 at 5:57 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by Rouge on 4/2/20 at 5:59 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
Small firm with only two professional engineers on staff. Looks like this one is on the owner of the engineering firm.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by BigPerm30 on 4/2/20 at 6:01 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Strict liability's a motherfricker.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by jimbeam on 4/2/20 at 6:02 pm to TigerstuckinMS
This is why I will not get into structural
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re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by LSUFanHouston on 4/2/20 at 6:02 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
So Teaslip really screwed up, but...
From the beginning, I felt like buildings don't collapse unless a lot of crap went wrong. Seems like some of the citation were for seemingly minor stuff, but to me, it speaks to a culture of laziness and not caring. It seems like every major construction project around here runs late, over budget, or is crappily built, or all three.
Maybe some of our construction companies and subs need to take a look at themselves and get their shite together.
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Altogether, 11 companies working on the project were fined about $306,000 for problems that were in place before the collapse.
From the beginning, I felt like buildings don't collapse unless a lot of crap went wrong. Seems like some of the citation were for seemingly minor stuff, but to me, it speaks to a culture of laziness and not caring. It seems like every major construction project around here runs late, over budget, or is crappily built, or all three.
Maybe some of our construction companies and subs need to take a look at themselves and get their shite together.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by fightin tigers on 4/2/20 at 6:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
So much for the sagging floors theory.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by MileHigh_Tiger on 4/2/20 at 6:05 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
Apparently it's $102k/life...shame
That structural engineer is going to have this follow them for the rest of their career, if there's much of one left after.
That structural engineer is going to have this follow them for the rest of their career, if there's much of one left after.
This post was edited on 4/2 at 6:24 pm
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by BigPerm30 on 4/2/20 at 6:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
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From the beginning, I felt like buildings don't collapse unless a lot of crap went wrong. Seems like some of the citation were for seemingly minor stuff, but to me, it speaks to a culture of laziness and not caring. It seems like every major construction project around here runs late, over budget, or is crappily built, or all three.
Maybe some of our construction companies and subs need to take a look at themselves and get their shite together.
If OSHA goes on any job there is a decent chance there will be multiple citations. If OSHA goes on a job with multiple fatalities, you best believe they are going to find a bunch of violations. A citation could be something as improper bookeeping or a nick in an extension cord.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by fightin tigers on 4/2/20 at 6:10 pm to MileHigh_Tiger
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Apparently, 3 men's lives are worth $306,000 in the eyes of OSHA
That's what lawsuits are for
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by MrLarson on 4/2/20 at 6:22 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
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1031 Canal itself was not cited by OSHA.
Well, isn't that peachy.
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by WPBTiger on 4/2/20 at 6:26 pm to LSUisBetterthanU
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Heaslip Engineering principal engineer James Heaslip has not yet publicly commented on the collapse could not be immediately reached on Thursday.
Dude better lawyer up and keep his mouth shut, he is in a world of shite.
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Another 10 companies working on the job were also accused of a range of safety violations, including several cited for failing to provide proper exits or stairways that could have been used to escape the building.
How many of these violations would have been found if the city inspectors were actually onsite as they claimed.
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re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by fightin tigers on 4/2/20 at 6:30 pm to MrLarson
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Well, isn't that peachy.
If they didn't break OSHA rules/regs they won't be fined by OSHA
re: Hard rock hotel collapse - Heaslip engineeringPosted by UABtiger on 4/2/20 at 6:33 pm to MileHigh_Tiger
OSHA doesn’t have the statutory authority to levy huge fines like most people think. I’ve seen disasters more egregious than this (plantwide mercury poisoning) get similar fines in the 125k-150k range.
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