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re: GM: No more gas or diesel cars or SUVs by 2035; Silverado and Yukons going electric too
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:20 pm to shel311
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:20 pm to shel311
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Range and charge time have changed drastically, so again, why would you think it won't get any better in the next 13-15 years?
1. Power grid
2. Auto manufacturers signing off on a universal design
3. Gas stations being retrofitted
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:21 pm to Old Money
Obvious issue here is that there would need to be multiple extra batteries for each battery on the road. Exacerbating the whole mining issue for manufacturing batteries.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:21 pm to Concernednewguy7
quote:I drive 650 miles every year for an annual vacation in an EV, so not "pretty much fricked"
So if you plan on traveling further than 200 miles, you are pretty much fricked.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:23 pm to shel311
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I drive 650 miles every year for an annual vacation in an EV, so not "pretty much fricked"
How many major cities are along that route?
I am not anti-EV, I would like a CyberTruck at some point but I wouldn't use it for anything over 300 miles or would plan very carefully when taking a trip out to Lake Amistad.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:23 pm to Twenty 49
These long term "moon shot" projections rarely pan out.
It won't matter, though. If there is a market for gasoline-powered vehicles, someone will make them.
It won't matter, though. If there is a market for gasoline-powered vehicles, someone will make them.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:24 pm to shel311
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Even in the recent Lafayette hurricanes where some people went without power for over a month, the supercharging station there as well as many other destination chargers weren't all out for a month as well.
I didn't see any EV driving around Lake Charles after hurricane Laura. The entire city was without power for a month.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:27 pm to bad93ex
quote:0, other than my starting point which is near Dallas.
How many major cities are along that route?
My charge stops would be in Denton, Childress, Amarillo, Tucumcari, and Las Vegas(New Mexico)
Not exactly major cities.
Total charge time is 1 hr 29 minutes. With 2 young kids that require a stop to sit and eat, it may add 30 minutes tops to my trip by going in an EV as opposed to a gas vehicle.
quote:I'll be grabbing a Cybertruck that will make these trips even easier since it'll have more range than my current EV.
I am not anti-EV, I would like a CyberTruck at some point but I wouldn't use it for anything over 300 miles or would plan very carefully when taking a trip out to Lake Amistad.
But yes, it doesn't make long road trips easier, but I also think the avg person doesn't realize it is much easier/quicker than they think.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:29 pm to tigeraddict
quote:Just curious, when is the last time the power randomly went out in your house overnight for 8 full hours?
"can't make it to work today, power went out last night and i couldn't charge my car"
That's literally never happened to me.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:32 pm to bad93ex
quote:15 in a Tesla. And I don't think the gas fill up will get better in the next 10-15 years, but I'm certainly charge times will.
Zero but it’s a five minute fill up and you’re on the road.
quote:That's definitely an issue that I don't even pretend to be smart enough to know how it'll be done.
The power infrastructure needs a massive overhaul (think trillions) in order to facilitate an entire electric fleet to happen in the United States for those 5 minute fill ups to happen and what is going to power that entire grid?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:33 pm to shel311
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I drive 650 miles every year for an annual vacation in an EV, so not "pretty much fricked"
lol, do you drive at 70+?
If you like the idea of having to stop, no matter what, then that’s good for you. I hated it. If we drive at 60, didn’t listen to music, and used the ac sparingly we could get around 210 miles. But if you hit 70+, and plan on using the ac at the temperature you wanted it would drop to 165 or less. Yes there were charging stations available, but having to hookup and wait 15-30 minutes kinda gets old especially when you don’t really get to choose where you do it. Also, that supercharge will eventually ruin your batteries.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:33 pm to tigergirl10
quote:EVs crush gas vehicles in terms of torque.
Sorry, but no battery can outperform a diesel motor for longevity and torque
quote:The misinformation that people run with around EVs is wild. This is false. Not even close.
You have to replace them every 80,000 to 100,000 miles. Ridiculous.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:34 pm to bad93ex
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The power infrastructure needs a massive overhaul (think trillions) in order to facilitate an entire electric fleet to happen in the United States for those 5 minute fill ups to happen and what is going to power that entire grid?
We don’t even produce enough energy to meet present demands. We have to import a large amount of it. With Biden going after oil and gas, where will this additional energy come from?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:35 pm to Twenty 49
I needed an excuse to a get that big diesel 
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:37 pm to Concernednewguy7
quote:Cruise set at 76
lol, do you drive at 70+?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:40 pm to shel311
What was your range?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:50 pm to Dr RC
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So you have a 40 gallon tank, drive 55 mph, RWD only, and have nothing in the truck besides your 120 pounds when wet body?
2018 crew cab 5.0 V8 F150, 36 gallon tank, RWD (you got that part right) Add 100 pounds on me and throw in my wife (no pics) and I had only 2 kids at the time. Truck bed was loaded with luggage under a bed cover. Drove from Youngsville to Disney World through the night, had fill up when I was probably 30 or 40 miles away. Sorry not sorry.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:50 pm to shel311
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Total charge time is 1 hr 29 minutes
On a 650 mile trip
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:52 pm to Concernednewguy7
quote:I honestly don't know.
What was your range?
260 is the full range off a full charge, but that's just the # showing on the car, not the actual range I'm getting.
But you don't have to fully charge as that does take much longer. Just take 15 or so minutes to charge from maybe 20% back up to 80%, which is more than enough to get me to the next supercharging station.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:53 pm to fightin tigers
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Technology is speeding up the recharge time
Problem is a battery’s useful life decreases the harder you charge it. The ecological fallout from all the future battery disposal is going to be many times worse than burning gas/diesel
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:54 pm to Vidic
quote:If you have young kids, you're easily going to take up about an hour most likely any way.
On a 650 mile trip
Not a huge difference.
Obvious to each his own, but if I'm driving alone, it's everything as quickly as possible. When you have 2 young kids, we'll always stop to eat once, so that alone is going to take 30 or so minutes even if in a gash vehicle. but now we just do it while we charge.
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