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Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:23 am to biggsc
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GM and Chrysler should have gone bankrupt and not get helped by the US Gov't.
so should USAir, TWA, and America West
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:23 am to Clames
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When was the last time a UAW president was raided by the FBI and IRS?
3 weeks?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:24 am to 777Tiger
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ABA
ADA
AMA, et al
LOL! Those aren't unions!
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:24 am to greygoose
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LOL! Those aren't unions!
they pretty much are
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:29 am to 777Tiger
Them too
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:29 am to 777Tiger
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hey pretty much are
You and your argument, just drove off a cliff.
AMA is negotiating physician's employment contracts now? LOL!
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:31 am to Hammertime
Not sure. The sticker on my truck was a hair over 40. The sticker on my similar 2004 chevy was 32. I'll take that, the one I have now is twice the truck the old Chevy was, both interior features and capability.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:31 am to greygoose
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AMA is negotiating physician's employment contracts now? LOL!
members of these groups pay dues, fund PACs, and of course they all bitch about it and CE, etc., but any time they get their tit in a ringer guess who they go running to?
ETA: not arguing anything, btw, just a discussion, a time wasting discussion
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 9:35 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:35 am to greygoose
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Name an organization, outside of government, that has been as historically corrupt as unions.
The US Chamber Of Commerce.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:39 am to The Spleen
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Name an organization, outside of government, that has been as historically corrupt as unions.
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The US Chamber Of Commerce.
state insurance regulators
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:39 am to 777Tiger
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members of these groups pay dues, fund PACs, and of course they all bitch about it and CE, etc., but any time they get their tit in a ringer guess who they go running to?
Yep, that's the prerequisite for being defined as a labor union.
AMA isn't representing it's members in labor disputes with employers. The AMA doesn't run in and defend a doc that fired for cause.
The AMA, ADA, and ABA are professional organization, not labor unions. I'll have to ask some of the many docs that I work with, if they belong to a union. Can't wait to hear their response.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:43 am to greygoose
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The AMA doesn't run in and defend a doc that fired for cause.
they hell they don't, seent it
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The AMA, ADA, and ABA are professional organization, not labor unions.
every white collar person wants to disassociate themselves from the term "union," that's why the call themselves members of an "association," it's all the same, just different craft and class
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:49 am to 777Tiger
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state insurance regulators
Seriously? That's your answer?
Insurance regulator corruption stories are everywhere! Didn't Joe Pesci star in a movie about that?
Labor unions are synonymous with corruption and their affiliation with organized crime.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:51 am to greygoose
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Seriously? That's your answer?
yes, I believe the question was about corrupt agencies that weren't union? they are gov't though, so I guess not a good example
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:52 am to 777Tiger
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every white collar person wants to disassociate themselves from the term "union," that's why the call themselves members of an "association," it's all the same, just different craft and class
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In 1847, the American Medical Association was founded in Philadelphia by Nathan Smith Davis as a national professional medical organization. The organization was established not only to advance scientific research and improve medical education standards but to improve public health.
LINK
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:52 am to 777Tiger
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state insurance regulators
Is that not part of the gov't?
ETA: I just your disclaimer.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:53 am to Janky
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Is that not part of the gov't?
I just posted that it was, and not a good example, beg pardon
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:02 am to 777Tiger
Like I said earlier....as a person in the workforce, I don't want to be working with to underperforming coworkers. I think they should get fired if they suck. With what I do, there are plenty of chances for people to be unsafe throughout every day as well. I don't want to work with those people either. They don't need to be demoted. They don't need to be moved to another department. They don't need to undergo countless hours of re-training and have three or four chances for every frick up. They need to be cut loose.
I don't even like all of the HR loopholes companies have to jump through to fire people.
Sure, I wish I made more....who doesn't? I place that burden solely on myself though. No company should be forced to pay someone a certain amount of wages because they do a job. They should pay them what they want, and let the employee make that decision
I don't even like all of the HR loopholes companies have to jump through to fire people.
Sure, I wish I made more....who doesn't? I place that burden solely on myself though. No company should be forced to pay someone a certain amount of wages because they do a job. They should pay them what they want, and let the employee make that decision
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:27 am to soccerfüt
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The thugs who run Unions in the US couldn’t tell the truth if it were the only available story.
That's all they are, a bunch of violent, crooked thugs who encourage people to suck at their jobs while demanding more pay and benefits, thus creating a bloated, unsustainable entity that produces nothing.
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