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Georgia Mistakenly Tells People They Failed The Bar Exam
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:52 am
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:52 am
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The Board of Bar Examiners has determined that errors in the scoring of the July 2015 and February 2016 Bar examinations resulted in 90 applicants being mistakenly notified that they had failed the examination when, in fact, they had passed. The Board is making a concerted effort to notify each and every one of them personally.
"The Board is prepared to reimburse you for fees associated with any subsequent exams taken as specified in the letter you have received from the Office of Bar Admissions, although we know your investment of time and effort greatly outweighs the additional cost of the examination."
"As members of the Board of Bar Examiners, we take full responsibility for the integrity of the Bar Examination and are working to restore trust in the scoring process. As attorneys ourselves, we recognize the seriousness of this mistake and deeply regret the distress we know this has caused. We have conducted a thorough investigation. We have determined the causes of these errors. Most importantly, we are taking steps to ensure this does not happen again."
Pissed would be an understatement. The lawsuits from this will be incredible.
The Board of Bar Examiners has determined that errors in the scoring of the July 2015 and February 2016 Bar examinations resulted in 90 applicants being mistakenly notified that they had failed the examination when, in fact, they had passed. The Board is making a concerted effort to notify each and every one of them personally.
"The Board is prepared to reimburse you for fees associated with any subsequent exams taken as specified in the letter you have received from the Office of Bar Admissions, although we know your investment of time and effort greatly outweighs the additional cost of the examination."
"As members of the Board of Bar Examiners, we take full responsibility for the integrity of the Bar Examination and are working to restore trust in the scoring process. As attorneys ourselves, we recognize the seriousness of this mistake and deeply regret the distress we know this has caused. We have conducted a thorough investigation. We have determined the causes of these errors. Most importantly, we are taking steps to ensure this does not happen again."
Pissed would be an understatement. The lawsuits from this will be incredible.
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:52 am to Costanza
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Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:53 am to Costanza
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WHOOPS.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:58 am to Costanza
Know a few people who got hit with this.
Even know of a guy who "failed" both July 15 and Feb 16 and then got an email that he passed both.
As much as the whole situation blows, the lawsuits will allow these kids pay off or significantly reduce their student loan debts.
Imagine you had a 120k/year entry job at a big atlanta firm and then they fired you for a false failure and you were unable to find employment as a lawyer. That's 120k in damages + expenses incurred retaking the test (1k-4k depending on if you took an additional prep class) + damages for pain and suffering.
Even know of a guy who "failed" both July 15 and Feb 16 and then got an email that he passed both.
As much as the whole situation blows, the lawsuits will allow these kids pay off or significantly reduce their student loan debts.
Imagine you had a 120k/year entry job at a big atlanta firm and then they fired you for a false failure and you were unable to find employment as a lawyer. That's 120k in damages + expenses incurred retaking the test (1k-4k depending on if you took an additional prep class) + damages for pain and suffering.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:59 am to Costanza
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:59 am to JohnnyKilroy
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got an email that he passed both
Ha, an e-mail. Hey, we ruined your life. Our bad. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:13 am to JohnnyKilroy
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fired you for a false failure
I knew of several people that failed, or conditioned I think they called it, the LA bar exam and had to retake portions of the test. Don't recall anyone losing their job over it.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:16 am to JohnnyKilroy
But out of what pocket would those damages be coming from?
Hopefully the Board of Examiners has insurance that would cover this, but it doesn't seem like a sure thing that they would. Then you're talking about the liquidity of a quasi-governmental agency being directly on the hook for these damages.
I wouldn't buy the Benz yet if I were one of these folks affected.
Hopefully the Board of Examiners has insurance that would cover this, but it doesn't seem like a sure thing that they would. Then you're talking about the liquidity of a quasi-governmental agency being directly on the hook for these damages.
I wouldn't buy the Benz yet if I were one of these folks affected.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:21 am to boosiebadazz
Cost of retaking the exam (possibly twice), cost of prep courses to help you study for an exam you thought you failed (possibly twice), lost wages from job offers being pulled due to failing the bar, reduced wages from having to work as a non-attorney while you retook the bar, emotional distress, etc.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:21 am to 777Tiger
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I knew of several people that failed, or conditioned I think they called it, the LA bar exam and had to retake portions of the test. Don't recall anyone losing their job over it.
It depends on the employer. I know a few who did lose their offer.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:22 am to Costanza
I understand what the damages would entail. I'm a plaintiff's lawyer. I'm great at quantifying damages.
But the other side of the coin is that you have to have a pocket of recovery. I'm just not so positive the Board is anticipating a frick up like this and procuring insurance accordingly. So absent an insurance policy, where are you getting the money to pay all these damages?
But the other side of the coin is that you have to have a pocket of recovery. I'm just not so positive the Board is anticipating a frick up like this and procuring insurance accordingly. So absent an insurance policy, where are you getting the money to pay all these damages?
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:25 am to Costanza
How about an hourly rate for the time spent preparing for the next test. I can't imagine looking back and realizing how much time was wasted.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:25 am to boosiebadazz
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, where are you getting the money to pay all these damages?
if they didn't have a signed contract specifying guaranteed money, and were fired but not given a specific reason as to why, what has been lost?
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:26 am to boosiebadazz
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So absent an insurance policy, where are you getting the money to pay all these damages?
Shouldn't be the students problem.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:26 am to boosiebadazz
Bar dues, Bar exam fees, CLE fees? I'd be shocked if they didn't have substantial financial assets.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:28 am to 777Tiger
You can depose people at the firm and establish that chain of causation.
Most Boards that administer the Bar are quasi-governmental entities and will get their funding from the Legislature and possibly some fees generated somewhere within the judiciary, meaning they don't have huge budgets to begin with. It may take a literal act of the Legislature of Georgia to make these folks whole again, but then you're getting into whether there is the political will and capital to do so.
Most Boards that administer the Bar are quasi-governmental entities and will get their funding from the Legislature and possibly some fees generated somewhere within the judiciary, meaning they don't have huge budgets to begin with. It may take a literal act of the Legislature of Georgia to make these folks whole again, but then you're getting into whether there is the political will and capital to do so.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:30 am to Costanza
You very well may be right. It's not a damages issue. That's easy. It's a pocket of recovery thing. I hope the people affected get some sort of recompense for having to go through it all; I just don't know if it'll be this huge financial windfall for them.
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:33 am to boosiebadazz
The Georgia Bar Association has 37,441 active members according to their website. Annual dues per member are $350, also per their website.
Their annual revenue from dues alone is $13,104,350. (not on the website, I used my handy dandy calculator)
Bar Associations (I believe) aren't subject to income tax, either. This doesn't count the ridiculous mark-ups and kick backs they get for required CLEs, or fees associated with applying for membership/taking the exam. There's no doubt they have the money to pay up.
Their annual revenue from dues alone is $13,104,350. (not on the website, I used my handy dandy calculator)
Bar Associations (I believe) aren't subject to income tax, either. This doesn't count the ridiculous mark-ups and kick backs they get for required CLEs, or fees associated with applying for membership/taking the exam. There's no doubt they have the money to pay up.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/8/16 at 11:35 am to Costanza
Hope so. I'm not saying I wouldn't take the case if it walked in my door 
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