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re: Gen Z will end up more successful than millennials
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:11 pm to lsu777
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:11 pm to lsu777
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depends on the focus, a BA in physics is not going to be as in depth but more broad and general in education, BS is opposite. The others are the same.
not all liberal arts degrees are good and not all are bad, same with bachelors of science, some good, some worthless
There seems to be some confusion; not all "liberal arts degrees" are BAs, you can get a BS in a liberal arts program. I have a BS in chemistry and a BA in English Lit. Had I just gotten one or the other I would have had the same broad-ranging education.
A liberal arts education is simply a broad education that, besides focusing on your major, you are also required to take a wide range of subjects designed to make you a well-rounded person. So if you get a BS in physics from a liberal arts institution, you are also going to take things like economics, politics, history, sociology, foreign language, fine arts, etc.
The idea of a worthless degree is also interesting. Many here define degree as worthless if it does not naturally lead to a high paying career. This is a fair way to look at it but it also discounts the value of education for education's sake. I grew up in a family that considered education to be as valuable as earning potential. There are certainly schools where the education is near worthless viewed through either lens. Students should also be well informed about the typical career compensation that some degrees limit one to.
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most people are not smart enough to know the difference....which might include you btw.
You are conflating smart and educated which are two different things. I have two degrees from a liberal arts institution, I taught as an adjunct professor for 8 years at the same one, and sit on the board now. I have a reasonable understanding of what a liberal arts education is.
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:16 pm to Obtuse1
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The idea of a worthless degree is also interesting. Many here define degree as worthless if it does not naturally lead to a high paying career.
The non college educated or other wise idiots on this site want to turn college into a job training program. A terrible idea
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:19 pm to RaoulDuke504
Literally all credible empirical data demonstrates that, on average, college graduates outearn those without degrees by whole orders of magnitude.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:24 pm to RaoulDuke504
Seems like the vast majority of the people who advocate the most for young people to go into the trades have never worked a day in their life as a tradesman.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:26 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Seems like the vast majority of the people who advocate the most for young people to go into the trades have never worked a day in their life as a tradesman
“College is a SCAM!!!!!!!!! My kids are going of course, but everyone else’s should get into the trades because it’s not worth it to go to college”
Eric, 49, Herc rentals, lives in Denham Springs
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/5/25 at 4:37 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I remember a thread a few years ago lamenting about how society is fricked because from pre-k until at least high school 90%+ of your teachers are women and how we need more men to teach and lead the next generation blah blah blah.
Take a guess how many OT'ers said they'd be happy if their son told them they wanted to go to college to be an elementary school teacher....
Take a guess how many OT'ers said they'd be happy if their son told them they wanted to go to college to be an elementary school teacher....
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:20 pm to Obtuse1
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You are conflating smart and educated which are two different things. I have two degrees from a liberal arts institution, I taught as an adjunct professor for 8 years at the same one, and sit on the board now. I have a reasonable understanding of what a liberal arts education is.
My bad assumed you don’t know the difference between BA & A BS. Most of the board doesn’t
By worthless I meant low ROI. I’m not a jobs training program only in college but I don’t think a degree with a low ROI is worth it at most schools. If you can live at home and school is covered by scholarship, sure or if you plan to go to grad school sure.
But imo low ROI degrees are worthless. Could get the same education from simply reading and using the internet, no need to spend tens of thousands
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