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re: Gen Z will end up more successful than millennials
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:54 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:54 am to RaoulDuke504
Let's look at this.
Millennials are what? 1981 - late 1990s?
Gen Z would then be late 90s - 2015ish?
Then I think everyone born now is Alpha?
I am not sure I see where Gen Z will be more successful. I am not saying they will be less successful, but they might be near equal to.
Off topic, but if you were born towards the end of Gen X does that make you more of a Millennial? As in 2 or 3 years before Millennials?
Millennials are what? 1981 - late 1990s?
Gen Z would then be late 90s - 2015ish?
Then I think everyone born now is Alpha?
I am not sure I see where Gen Z will be more successful. I am not saying they will be less successful, but they might be near equal to.
Off topic, but if you were born towards the end of Gen X does that make you more of a Millennial? As in 2 or 3 years before Millennials?
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:54 am to RaoulDuke504
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went to university
Are you British?
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:00 am to RaoulDuke504
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Tell me more about you own personal experience that all data says is not the norm for most adults under 40
you want data....
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Mid-career earnings for college graduates are significantly higher than those with only a high school degree. For example, a 2025 study found that bachelor's degree holders earn 50% more than high school graduates. The median salary for college graduates is around $77,636, while the median salary for high school graduates is about $46,748
do you want me to go into trades?
because median salary in Louisiana for
plumber- $63.5k
hvac tech- $54k
electrician- $52k
welder- $48.8k
pipefitter- $56.3k
instrumentation- $70k
millwright- $50.3k
outside of those that work actually for a plant...these jobs have dog shite benefits unless you work for a union shop. even then only looking at topping at $38/hour in louisiana
if you want to go into the trades....go be an operator at the plants or intrumentation at the plants.
to mingo's point, we hire engineering interns at 35 an hour. starting salary for a chemical engineer is 75k on very low end to 95k on high end and this is starting. mechanical and electrical are about 70-90. civil depends totally on what you do as there are too many discplines.
mingo works in finance...he is similar
OP what you are saying is...those going to get just an undergrad in most liberal arts studies are wasting their money unless they go back and get a masters in something worth a frick.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:00 am to RaoulDuke504
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I’m saying this as I’m a millennials and went this route. In that time pay has stagnated since pre COVID and upward mobility isn’t there anymore. I see many of my peers in the same position.
This reminds of what Japan went through in the 80s after their era of stagnation. A generation who were told to take advantage of the booming economy and growth of industries that soon disappeared and are now far into their adulthood with 0 job prospects and still at home with their parents.
I actually went back to trade school after getting a degree instead of waiting for the bottom to fall out as administration jobs all over get cut in the next few years.
Traditionally trade jobs are leading indicators of coming economic downturns...construction jobs start to disappear first and start to come back first...
According to Associated Builders and Contractors, an open shop business professional organization consisting of 27,000 non union construction companies construction job openings are down 27% since March of 2024. March of 2025 saw the lowest number of new hires in the open shop construction industry since the ABC has been keeping such records since 1950. There ain't much need to go into the construction trades at the moment because there are fewer openings and they are getting even fewer....
Another problem with the trades is this...getting laid off is common and it usually means starting all over again as far as benefits and even salary. It also can take a LONG time in an economic downturn....hearing people talking about taking a year or longer to find another job is not uncommon. Finally finding that next gig often means leaving home and your family and going out of town. When Jodie moves in and is spending your paycheck I am sure you will take solace in the fact that you did not get an education....
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:03 am to 777Tiger
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and missed travel ball tournaments
jk
no man that is a big thing imo. being able to provide an amazing life to your family, still pick your kids up at 3 and make all tournaments without having to ask permission....that shite is worth its wait in gold
I could have moved to houston and been a director over a big portion of the country and actually pulled out last minute due to unforeseen circumstances outside of my control. looking back it was best decision that i could have ever made. having a high level title was a big deal to me before my kids got older and started getting into sports, fishing, hunting and other things and now being able to do share those things means way more than any title.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:04 am to lsu777
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no man that is a big thing imo. being able to provide an amazing life to your family, still pick your kids up at 3 and make all tournaments without having to ask permission....that shite is worth its wait in gold
I could have moved to houston and been a director over a big portion of the country and actually pulled out last minute due to unforeseen circumstances outside of my control. looking back it was best decision that i could have ever made. having a high level title was a big deal to me before my kids got older and started getting into sports, fishing, hunting and other things and now being able to do share those things means way more than any title.
lighten up dude, we're on the same side of this discussion
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:05 am to lsu777
You compared college graduates to high school graduates not to those with trades and certification
You’re also using averages of all wages which is skewed do you older wage earners when I’m talking about younger generation.
You’re also using averages of all wages which is skewed do you older wage earners when I’m talking about younger generation.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:06 am to RaoulDuke504
You want to carve out anything that you don’t like included
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:07 am to RaoulDuke504
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Engineering- Flooded with visa workers who cut into salaries
you know very little. Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:07 am to AwgustaDawg
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Traditionally trade jobs are leading indicators of coming economic downturns...construction jobs start to disappear first and start to come back first...
According to Associated Builders and Contractors, an open shop business professional organization consisting of 27,000 non union construction companies construction job openings are down 27% since March of 2024. March of 2025 saw the lowest number of new hires in the open shop construction industry since the ABC has been keeping such records since 1950. There ain't much need to go into the construction trades at the moment because there are fewer openings and they are getting even fewer....
Another problem with the trades is this...getting laid off is common and it usually means starting all over again as far as benefits and even salary. It also can take a LONG time in an economic downturn....hearing people talking about taking a year or longer to find another job is not uncommon. Finally finding that next gig often means leaving home and your family and going out of town. When Jodie moves in and is spending your paycheck I am sure you will take solace in the fact that you did not get an education....
he doesnt want to hear about all that because he got a BA in something useless and wasnt a go getter.
dude would be much better off using his degree to get a sales position and working his way into getting into industrial sales.
but im sure he has it all figured out. its the systems fault he couldnt get promoted, took out a big loan and couldnt hack it
now he is going to go work in construction where the guys with IQs over 100 kill it if they are willing to work really hard at the start. lot less competition.
but hey he doesnt want to hear about layoffs
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:09 am to 777Tiger
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lighten up dude, we're on the same side of this discussion
no sorry you took that wrong...i was agreeing with you. i know you were giving me hard time, i was simply saying that actually is a big thing imo to be able to sleep in own bed etc
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:11 am to RaoulDuke504
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You’re also using averages of all wages which is skewed do you older wage earners when I’m talking about younger generation.
i gave you median salary for every major trade in Louisiana.... none are as high as even the median mid career of everyone with a college degree.
would you like to compare those that are professionals like engeineers, software developers, finance, accounting, doctors lawyers etc to those in the trades
you know trade for a trade?
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:11 am to RaoulDuke504
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You compared college graduates to high school graduates not to those with trades and certification You’re also using averages of all wages which is skewed do you older wage earners when I’m talking about younger generation.
I changed my mind, you’re a perfect fit for the trades
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:12 am to lsu777
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dude would be much better off using his degree to get a sales position and working his way into getting into industrial sales. but im sure he has it all figured out. its the systems fault he couldnt get promoted, took out a big loan and couldnt hack it now he is going to go work in construction where the guys with IQs over 100 kill it if they are willing to work really hard at the start. lot less competition.
I did sales, I didn’t like it
I’m not going into construction
I’m going into engineering tech side
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:12 am to lsu777
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now he is going to go work in construction where the guys with IQs over 100 kill it if they are willing to work really hard at the start. lot less competition.
this is a good point, a young kid with any intelligence and who is a go getter has a huge advantage over his peers in this day and age, if they have and end goal, a plan, they can do well in that environment
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:13 am to CarRamrod
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CarRamrod
no man...what do we know.....we only work in engineering....we are wrong...salaries are at all time lows cause foreigners took our jobs!!!! stop denying it
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:14 am to RaoulDuke504
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I did sales, I didn’t like it
I’m not going into construction
I’m going into engineering tech side
that isnt the trades
you talking NICET? yea cause I have those. that is not the trades dude
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:15 am to RaoulDuke504
How do you define success?
Are we simply discussing wage rates? If so, that is how things are supposed to work.
But your analogy that skill trades automatically equate to higher wages is misguided. Sure, those working in the skill trades most likely will have a higher wage when they have 5 years' experience and are comparing themselves to the college educated population that went to school for 4-5 years and are just now getting started. But the studies have been pretty consistent that those with college degrees typically have higher accumulative wages than those without.
Are we simply discussing wage rates? If so, that is how things are supposed to work.
But your analogy that skill trades automatically equate to higher wages is misguided. Sure, those working in the skill trades most likely will have a higher wage when they have 5 years' experience and are comparing themselves to the college educated population that went to school for 4-5 years and are just now getting started. But the studies have been pretty consistent that those with college degrees typically have higher accumulative wages than those without.
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:15 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I changed my mind, you’re a perfect fit for the trades
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: you on a roll this morning...someone piss you off this morning? you have zero tolerance for low iq post this morning
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:18 am to lsu777
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that isnt the trades you talking NICET? yea cause I have those. that is not the trades dude
Something like that but the pay starts at $42 an hour much more than my current pay. I honestly can’t anything close to that in my current career field unless I get to upper management this is the base level for the school I’m currently in.
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