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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Hydrogen powered vehicles would share the advantages of conventional ICE vehicles, rapid refueling for example, but they would also improve on them in a number of ways, cheap fuel, clean burning, incredibly efficient, with fantastic range.
I think it’s a better paradigm, than a plug in battery powered electric car.
I think it’s a better paradigm, than a plug in battery powered electric car.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:17 am to fightin tigers
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Supply and infrastructure will need to be improved to make them common in every household, but these aren't insurmountable. Not sure why this concept is so far fetched for some people. If the demand is there and there is money to be made a way will be found.
The infrastructure is nowhere close to being ready for this. Homes with garages are very uncommon in my area, where are we people supposed to charge? What about about people who live in areas with no off street parking?
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:22 pm to shel311
It doesn’t happen with ICE vehicles, they have predictable range, that doesn’t fluctuate with the weather, and you can easily top off a tank with a jerry can, or at the pump, if your farm has one.
It would happen with battery powered vehicles though, because they have unpredictable endurance, which depends on the weather, and drops with the life of the battery. And because you can’t top off the battery, like a gas tank.
The annoying thing is that your range and endurance would be at its worst, in the most extreme weather, when you really don’t want to get stranded in a field.
Electric vehicles won’t take off with farmers, until they’re as versatile and reliable as the vehicles currently in use.
Farmers won’t adopt a technology that introduces new problems into their operations.
It would happen with battery powered vehicles though, because they have unpredictable endurance, which depends on the weather, and drops with the life of the battery. And because you can’t top off the battery, like a gas tank.
The annoying thing is that your range and endurance would be at its worst, in the most extreme weather, when you really don’t want to get stranded in a field.
Electric vehicles won’t take off with farmers, until they’re as versatile and reliable as the vehicles currently in use.
Farmers won’t adopt a technology that introduces new problems into their operations.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:34 pm to shel311
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Question as I don't know anything about farm life, but is your farm equipment normally running out of gas while in the field, and if so why?
No it does not. But as the batteries age they lose efficiency. My experience with battery powered equipment is after a while it will quickly lose charge. Like a UTV that did that. Replaced batteries and a couple of years later it starts doing it again. Cell phones, cordless drills, everything with a battery dies after a few years. So in addition to the cost of replacing the expensive batteries we also will have the environmental nightmare of dealing with the old used (dead) batteries.
Hell I have 3 tractors that are from the 80's that start and run every time I hit the switch. I have much more trouble with the newer units due to all the electronic bullshite on them.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:02 pm to alphaandomega
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. But as the batteries age they lose efficiency.
About 3% over 100,000 miles according to Bolt, Leaf, and Telsa owners.
It's not going to just deplete down to zero while you sit out there. Like a gas truck, you want to make sure you have enough in the tank to get back.
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Hell I have 3 tractors that are from the 80's that start and run every time I hit the switch. I have much more trouble with the newer units due to all the electronic bullshite on them.
The electronic accessories and emissions crap have ruined gas and diesel engines. They are far from simple anymore.
Electric vehicles don't have complex transmissions, emissions equipment, etc. They have far fewer moving parts or failure points.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/19/21 at 1:45 pm to alphaandomega
quote:Thanks, and yea didn't think of that. Definitely makes sense where you need to know you have a certain amount of range and can trust it won't change with those types of activities.
No it does not. But as the batteries age they lose efficiency. My experience with battery powered equipment is after a while it will quickly lose charge. Like a UTV that did that. Replaced batteries and a couple of years later it starts doing it again. Cell phones, cordless drills, everything with a battery dies after a few years. So in addition to the cost of replacing the expensive batteries we also will have the environmental nightmare of dealing with the old used (dead) batteries.
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