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re: For those suffering from mental illness: (Long Post)

Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:12 am to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:12 am to
You know

I experienced some small problems after deployment, I was a medic in the army. I was constantly on guard, certain noises really irritated me, high anxiety, a nagging wife who also served but didn’t see combat. She had the nerve to show me a video of ISIS setting a guy on fire.

So I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder with depression. Hypnosis helped, medication was ok. Then I started Occupational therapy school in May 2016, once we started gross anatomy class and we had to dissect the cadaver’s intestines; I lost it. I lost my dad to colon cancer about 3 months after I got discharged. Seeing these dead bodies got to me because it spurred the memories of my dad in his dying days and the fallen servicemen I have seen and put on a helicopter so they can go home to their loved ones.

So I sought more help, because everything was a blur. Everyone’s voice in that class was like one sound which was like static on tv.

It wasn’t until this year almost 2 years later I was diagnosed with ptsd. Should have been sooner but I didn’t want the label of being weak or a coward or nuts. Now I have a 2 year old girl and will start my last clinical rotation prior to becoming a licensed occupational therapist.

I still have problems with my wife (we’re two entirely different people) she’s a naturally mean and moody person. I’ve started eating healthier and trying to take better care of myself so I can be the best dad and role model for my daughter. I still get startled and will get anxiety if someone unexpectedly comes behind me but it’s not as bad as it once was.

I’ll never be the same but I know in some things I can be better than what I once was.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11361 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:13 am to
Paige, is exercise effective for your BP?
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:25 am to
it certainly doesn't hurt and may help a little

but I honestly don't notice a difference even when I'm going to the gym regularly and working out with a trainer

I have type I so it's rather severe and the only thing that really helps is large meds, getting good sleep, a low stress lifestyle and therapy
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11361 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:35 am to
My wife is type 1 as well. Sleep, low stress, and routine definitely part of her recipe for success. But without exercise she'd be bad off.

It's interesting that everyone has to find their own recipe, and no two are alike.

Hang in there and know that you are not alone.

My wife is a successful Physician Assistant with two undergrad degrees and a masters in PA. Nothing is beyond your capabilities if you take care of you.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5328 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:39 am to
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The dirty little secret nobody talks about is that not everyone gets better. For some people it's a daily struggle. Imagine your worst, bleakest day, then imagine waking up like that every morning for years on end, and nothing you try helps. That's what it's like for some people.


I understand you’re trying to get some sympathy for people who can’t get well, but this is really unhelpful shite to say in an era where even admitting mental illness is still stigmatized. Mental illness is just like physical illness in that there are an infinite number of kinds and severities, but most of them are either treatable or temporary, and the worst thing someone can do is resign themselves to being sick forever without trying to find a treatment. Sorry not trying to jump your shite, but I’ve been in some dark places myself and reading discouraging stuff like this on the internet has caused me some serious anxiety at the worst of times.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:44 am to
Buspar made me very dizzy
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
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85640 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:23 pm to
Ugh I hope I don’t get that but I’m not very prone to side effects or if I do get them they go away in a couple weeks
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:25 pm to
Thank you
quote:

It's interesting that everyone has to find their own recipe, and no two are alike.
it is. Hell what works for me one month doesn’t always work the next
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:26 pm to
I didn’t get any side effects on buspar, but I didn’t feel it did much.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:27 pm to
Recently lost a new hire to suicide. Apparently, he had been suffering from severe depression for years, and the stress of a new job/moving tipped him over the edge.

I don’t know that there’s anything that can be said here that can resonate with someone whose brain is sick.

I’ve never personally suffered from depression, but suicide “runs in my family” of sorts. Three relatives, all male, have ended their lives in the past 40 years or so.

All I can say is, to the best of your ability, coach yourself to just live another day. See another sunrise. Don’t give up. No matter what your stage in life is, there is a hell of a lot to live for.

There are a lot of shitty people out there, but once you find the right ones with whom to fill up your life, it makes it all worth it. Everyone can find happiness, but nobody can provide it for you.

Best of luck.

Love, Blob

Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:28 pm to
I always read that it’s a pretty weak med

But I have a friend and sister that like it
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:29 pm to
I appreciate you posting this there are scales on the walls drowning underneath my dogs this hotel is airborne and no one even believes the hands are not the same as the spades anymore but WebMD is also a good source
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13638 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:30 pm to
Meditation and therapy have done wonders for me. I cannot recommend those two things more to anyone going through a hard time.

I know meditation is hard for many in the West to wrap their heads around but once you understand your goals and what you are supposed to do/feel there's nothing like it in understanding your own emotions and thoughts.

What makes me so sad is that people are becoming more and more isolated and loneliness is terrible for the human brain. And loneliness is hard to change. Technology is destroying human connection.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4988 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

I've got this gene -- had NO clue that it was linked to mental issues.


From Psychology Today

quote:

Normally, the MTHFR gene produces enough of the related enzyme to perform its associated functions well. One function that is particularly important to mental health is the conversion of an essential B-vitamin, folate, into the more usable form, l-methylfolate. L-Methylfolate enables our bodies to convert the amino acid homocysteine to another amino acid, methionine. The body then uses methionine to make proteins and other important compounds, including neurotransmitters (serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine). These brain chemicals are essential for a number of aspects of mental health; thus, when this process is impaired, it can increase the likelihood of the mental health issues mentioned previously. In addition, when the enzyme is not working at normal capacity, it can lead to elevated levels of homocysteine in the blood, which can lead to cardiovascular and other health problems.


quote:

If you have a personal or significant family history of one or more of the above illnesses, and in particular, if you have not responded as well as expected to conventional treatment for depression or other mental health issues, it is worth speaking with your medical provider about being tested for an MTHFR mutation.


Inexplicably high homocysteine levels in the blood tests were the tell. Have seen this in action second hand, it is no joke.

Saw the person affected by this swallow SSRIs, SNRIs, etc, etc for years to no avail. A few inexpensive dietary supplements later and it was like a light switch was turned on. Downright amazing.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

What makes me so sad is that people are becoming more and more isolated and loneliness is terrible for the human brain. And loneliness is hard to change. Technology is destroying human connection.



Can attest to this. Therapy did a lot for me as well. On its own it kept me from sinker deeper into a depression that I didn't even realize was affecting me so much.

Long-term I've thought often about trying meditation. I've done everything possible to avoid medication.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11361 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

there are scales on the walls drowning underneath my dogs this hotel is airborne and no one even believes the hands are not the same as the spades anymore


What?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61710 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

I suffer from severe social anxiety which in turn caused substance abuse. It's hard for me to be open to anyone, including doctors or shrinks


I have had social anxiety since I was 5 year s old. A few words of advice:

Let people know, be open w it and you will be astonished how much easier situations become.

Avoid alcohol if you are in a rough patch, it will make the anxiety 10x worse.

Learn a new skill, challenge yourself. For me it helps reset my brain.

Most importantly go see a clinical psychologist. Not so much for treatment but learn everything you can about your particular anxiety. The more you know the more you can manage.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13638 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Long-term I've thought often about trying meditation. I've done everything possible to avoid medication.


I've never taken any medication as I try to avoid it as well. I was close to taking medicine twice but I was able to work through it.

If you ever decide to pick meditation up I recommend the book "Cultivating Mindfulness" as sort of a work book as you go through the journey. I think too many people sit down to meditate without understanding it and this wonderful book acts as a road map to the mind and practice.
Posted by Sasquatch26
Parts Unknown
Member since Apr 2015
44 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:55 pm to
You hit the nail on the head with this post....too many people are scared to offer help also. I know i've personally witnessed it. Im not a good person in any sense of the word, but when I see someone having a bad day, I ask them if they need to talk. You never know when someone's close to the edge. I've seen senior management at my organization make fun of people who have panic attacks and it's just not right. I'm always thinking I should file a compliance complaint but I like having money. Just my 2 cents and rambling on the subject.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:59 pm to
I'm about to start a TM class led by Prudence Farrow, who practiced with the Maharishi in India, along with the Beatles. She was the inspiration for "Dear Prudence" and used to be my next door neighbor. I'm pretty stoked about it, several friends have gotten a lot out of it.
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