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re: for those of us making the friday meatless sacrifice - This:

Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:07 am to
Posted by LSshoe
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:07 am to
As someone raised catholic but not practicing I typically try to observe many of the lenten traditions. Why abstain from meat on Friday? I find it generally good to occasionally force myself to change my habits on occasion. It's good for practicing self control. Also, in this case, we all tend to eat way too much meat. It's delicious. I get it. I eat it all the time too. It's terrible for both us and the planet though, so it's good to eat a bit less here and there. Seafood is also delicious and I don't eat as much as I'd like, so lenten Fridays in south Louisiana are good opportunities to indulge.

Also one other thing, there are lots of catholics in South LA, but go around the country where they're less common and you won't find all the shrimp Po-Boy specials and boiled crawfish and you can see that we're just spoiled over here for good seafood, catholic or not.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:40 am to
Bodily fasting is meaningless unless it is joined with a spiritual fast from sin.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:00 pm to
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My usual routine includes a breakfast biscuit with eggs and sausage - not on Fridays in Lent.

I go to lunch with friends: let’s get a meat lovers pizza. Nope. Cheese only for me.

Tonight we’re going to a friends house on a Friday night. They made Snacks, great! Chicken wings and taco dip with ground meat! Nope. Just the chips is all I get.


This is what people refuse to see. You're choosing to do something different than you would if left to your own devices, which is a real, if small, acknowledgement by you that you serve (or at least recognize) a higher power.

I don't know any Catholics who think that their little Friday sacrifice is reason to boast, but people saying that we aren't sacrificing at all betrays an unwillingness to understand what they are mocking.

As a convert to Catholicism, I have a real appreciation for these traditions, rites, etc that "force" me to remember God in different ways. As we grow in faith and devotion, it may be that we need them less and appreciate them more.

Someone else may need no help of this sort. That's good for them.
Posted by MF Doom
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:03 pm to
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Why is fish not considered meat?


It's okay to eat fish cuz they don't have any feelings
Posted by Uptowner
The OP
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:06 pm to
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friday meatless sacrifice


All yall who don't eat meat on Fridays during Lent because it's a sin.... None of you had premarital sex, right? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:06 pm to
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we all tend to eat way too much meat.


How so?

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It's terrible for both us and the planet though


bullshite.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:42 pm to
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None of you had premarital sex, right? Yeah, that's what I thought.


what is that is suppose to mean? You think there are people out there that don't sin? We all sin.

This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted by LSshoe
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:44 pm to
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How so?


I was mostly speaking in generalities. Eating lots of red meat in particular is not good for your long term health.

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bullshite


Meat is resource intensive. First they need to eat a bunch of plants, which requires resources such as nutrients and also space. The animals that eat the plants are not lossless converters of nutrients and therefore require more intake themselves than they provide to us meat eaters. A big problem with animals is all the space they take up. Most of the world doesn't eat meat at the same rate we do. If they did we'd probably need to start cattle ranching on the moon because there wouldn't be enough space for the both of us.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63598 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Eating lots of red meat in particular is not good for your long term health.


Why isn't it good for your long term health?

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Meat is resource intensive. First they need to eat a bunch of plants, which requires resources such as nutrients and also space. The animals that eat the plants are not lossless converters of nutrients and therefore require more intake themselves than they provide to us meat eaters. A big problem with animals is all the space they take up. Most of the world doesn't eat meat at the same rate we do.


Propaganda.

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we'd probably need to start cattle ranching on the moon because there wouldn't be enough space for the both of us.


Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Why is fish not considered meat?

I remember my grandmother saying ducks were ok to eat because it is a waterfowl and not considered meat. Now grant you that was long long time ago. Old school Catholic when everything was in Latin. May have lost something in the translation. I’m sure the “rules” have changed.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Why isn't it good for your long term health?



There is a well established, evidence supported causal relationship between high intake of saturated fats and heart disease. Red meat has high saturated fat.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't eat it, but eating "lots" of it can have negative health outcomes. There are guidelines for what is considered an excessive amount.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63598 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 1:11 pm to
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There is a well established, evidence supported casual relationship between high intake of saturated fats and heart disease. Red meat has high saturated fat.


Ah. You're both stuck in the 1980s. OK. That explains it.

Don't eat that red meat. Eat the good fats in our processed food products with soybean and vegetable oils. OK.

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There are guidelines for what is considered an excessive amount.


Oh, I'm well aware of those guidelines.
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3458 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 1:17 pm to
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i will smiling down on them when im in heaven and they are in hell, after i enjoy my seafood gumbo, fried crawfish, and french fries for lunch today


You think a god would care about what you eat?

Or would even care about you?

Ok.
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